Hi, I need your help.
I played through the game about a year ago and loved it very much. After a disccrash i lost all my savegames which leads to what i need help with.
I would like to have the advice of the grimoire of pestilential thoughts. All of them. Hopefully without having to play the game all the way to mantouk again.
Hopefully one of you have an old savegame at that place and could write them down to me.
Hoping for your help.
Best Regards
Evelina
The Advice of the Grimoire of Pestilential Thoughts
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Advice...
Nameless One: "I want some advice from you."
Book: "You wish my knowledge... master?"
Nameless One: "Yes."
Book: "I bestow this advice. Be wary of those you keep close to you. Never take them fully into your confidence, and never dilute your strength by sharing it. Many emperors I have know have done such, and I do not wish you to suffer the same fate."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. If they claim friendship, let them prove themselves. Words carry little weight compared to action. If friends they be, then they should be willing to die for you."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: You feel a slight tightening in your chest as the book speaks. "Then I bestow this advice. Show no weakness, do not admit error, do not show hesitation. These things tell others that you are uncertain, a stone that is unbalanced and may be toppled."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. Beware mercy. A turned back is no defense against an assassin's knife."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. Beware the common view of love. Love must often be cruel in order so that it may rise above the merely sentimental."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: You feel a faint sneer curl up in the corner of your mouth. You quickly repress it. "Then I bestow this advice. Separate yourself from small-minded fools and the weak by recognizing that you have a destiny. This alone gives you the authority to tread where others would fear to go."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. There are two secrets to becoming great. One is never to reveal all that you know."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. To become powerful, you must be willing to sacrifice: whether it is parts of yourself or things precious to you. Power is a bargain: One must give in order to receive."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:Your blood seems to move more sluggishly within your veins as the book speaks. "Then I bestow this advice. Honor and virtue are concepts that kill men and kill the spirit. They are only abstracts that drive men to strangeness and death. Be true to yourself and obey only your own will."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Do not suffer one who has hurt you to live. To do so is an open admission of weakness."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. The soul of a man is a sea of emotions. Often man struggles to bring order to these emotions, but it is a false order. Man's natural state is chaos, and it is a state that should be surrendered to."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Know the meaning of mercy, use it to your advantage... but do not practice it."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Nurture fear in others, for only fear rules men. Nothing else leaves deeper scars."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Extend a smile and the hand of friendship to your enemies. When they clasp your hand, strike them with the dagger in your other hand, else they will surely do the same to you."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: As the book speaks these words, you feel a chill weight settle on your heart. You feel somehow tainted. "These are my last words of advice. Weigh them carefully. Remember that you can expunge anything you find undesirable. You need only have the will."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"I regret that I can speak no more words of wisdom to you. You have received an education in the phrases I have given you; reflect on them."
Hmmm... some of them seem more chaotic than evil (like the stuff about minds being a sea of emotion). Does the Tome of Pestilential Thought advocate letting YOURSELF be swayed easily by emotion? I'd think not. Does it mean just exploit other's emotions? It seems like overall, this book has a lot of the perspective of the Practical Incarnation, and I can't imagine he let his mind turn into a "sea of emotions." He was frustrated with Deionarra in the sensory stone, but he kept himself very tightly controlled.
Nameless One: "I want some advice from you."
Book: "You wish my knowledge... master?"
Nameless One: "Yes."
Book: "I bestow this advice. Be wary of those you keep close to you. Never take them fully into your confidence, and never dilute your strength by sharing it. Many emperors I have know have done such, and I do not wish you to suffer the same fate."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. If they claim friendship, let them prove themselves. Words carry little weight compared to action. If friends they be, then they should be willing to die for you."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: You feel a slight tightening in your chest as the book speaks. "Then I bestow this advice. Show no weakness, do not admit error, do not show hesitation. These things tell others that you are uncertain, a stone that is unbalanced and may be toppled."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. Beware mercy. A turned back is no defense against an assassin's knife."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: "Then I bestow this advice. Beware the common view of love. Love must often be cruel in order so that it may rise above the merely sentimental."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: You feel a faint sneer curl up in the corner of your mouth. You quickly repress it. "Then I bestow this advice. Separate yourself from small-minded fools and the weak by recognizing that you have a destiny. This alone gives you the authority to tread where others would fear to go."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. There are two secrets to becoming great. One is never to reveal all that you know."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. To become powerful, you must be willing to sacrifice: whether it is parts of yourself or things precious to you. Power is a bargain: One must give in order to receive."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:Your blood seems to move more sluggishly within your veins as the book speaks. "Then I bestow this advice. Honor and virtue are concepts that kill men and kill the spirit. They are only abstracts that drive men to strangeness and death. Be true to yourself and obey only your own will."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Do not suffer one who has hurt you to live. To do so is an open admission of weakness."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. The soul of a man is a sea of emotions. Often man struggles to bring order to these emotions, but it is a false order. Man's natural state is chaos, and it is a state that should be surrendered to."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Know the meaning of mercy, use it to your advantage... but do not practice it."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Nurture fear in others, for only fear rules men. Nothing else leaves deeper scars."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"Then I bestow this advice. Extend a smile and the hand of friendship to your enemies. When they clasp your hand, strike them with the dagger in your other hand, else they will surely do the same to you."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book: As the book speaks these words, you feel a chill weight settle on your heart. You feel somehow tainted. "These are my last words of advice. Weigh them carefully. Remember that you can expunge anything you find undesirable. You need only have the will."
Nameless One: "Give me some more advice."
Book:"I regret that I can speak no more words of wisdom to you. You have received an education in the phrases I have given you; reflect on them."
Hmmm... some of them seem more chaotic than evil (like the stuff about minds being a sea of emotion). Does the Tome of Pestilential Thought advocate letting YOURSELF be swayed easily by emotion? I'd think not. Does it mean just exploit other's emotions? It seems like overall, this book has a lot of the perspective of the Practical Incarnation, and I can't imagine he let his mind turn into a "sea of emotions." He was frustrated with Deionarra in the sensory stone, but he kept himself very tightly controlled.
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Players of Avellone's KotoR2 may notice how closely the Grimoire resembles the advice of Kreia in the latter. It's not a case of stealing one's own previous inspiration, but simply a certain mindset brilliantly presented.
To the Righteous belong the fruits of violent victory. The rest of us will have to settle for warm friends, warm lovers, and a wink from a quietly supportive universe.
Wow Jules, where'd you come up with that?
I might have to play through Torment again as evil for once, it seems like I might be missing a lot by playing a goody lawful guy.
[quote="fable]Players of Avellone's KotoR2 may notice how closely the Grimoire resembles the advice of Kreia in the latter. It's not a case of stealing one's own previous inspiration"]
Hmm yeah, now that you mention it, she is a lot like the tome...going on about playing two sides untill the ending and showing no mercy..
I might have to play through Torment again as evil for once, it seems like I might be missing a lot by playing a goody lawful guy.
[quote="fable]Players of Avellone's KotoR2 may notice how closely the Grimoire resembles the advice of Kreia in the latter. It's not a case of stealing one's own previous inspiration"]
Hmm yeah, now that you mention it, she is a lot like the tome...going on about playing two sides untill the ending and showing no mercy..
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