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Postby Yshania » Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:14 pm

Haha!! :laugh:

Nice!! we play wow too, and I am GM of the largest guild on Eu Lightbringer. My boy has quite the collection of characters, his main being a 70 mage =)

Will mail you my new number anyway, it has been a while!

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Postby dragon wench » Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:19 pm

Yshania wrote:Haha!! :laugh:

Nice!! we play wow too, and I am GM of the largest guild on Eu Lightbringer. My boy has quite the collection of characters, his main being a 70 mage =)

Will mail you my new number anyway, it has been a while!


lol! :D
Just PMed you my contact details ;)
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Postby C Elegans » Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:59 pm

I'm sorry I haven't had time to post in this thread before. Since this taps my field, I'll give a scientific background and a scientific solution.

Studies of children and teenagers have shown that teenagers indeed do have a tendency to fall asleep later at night and wake up later in the morning. This is due to the chemical process (I won't go into details, I can if someone is interested) that starts in the body at the end of the day when our biological system starts to prepare us for sleep. This chemical process has a slower onset in teenagers, which means that they actually do get tired later at night than preadolescent children do. The optimal time for teenagers to sleep according to the biochemical rythm of them have, is between midnight and 9 am. No differences between boys and girls have been found.

The bad news is that this biochemical sleep process is slowest after onset of puberty, which means that if your son is 13, it will probably only get worse from here on. The good news is that habits influence this biological process more than genetic determination, so it's not that difficult to alter. This is what your son should do:

Daylight exposure in the morning right after the time he should go up. Let's say he should go up at 7 am. Then have him go up at 7, and make sure he gets out as soon as possible. It's summer now, have breakfast outside, in the garden or at some nice cafe, take a walk, sit outside and read - anything that gives him daylight exposure for some time, at least 30 minutes, preferrable longer.

Turn off the light in the evening. From around 8-9 pm he should stay in dark rooms, and like others have pointed out, not occupy himself with arousal increasing activities. No physical exersise or exciting computer games at this time of the day, reading or passively watching a movie or something is better. By staying in darkness, the melatonin productions increases and with that, the tendency to get sleepy.

If this fails, I see no other solution than moving to Sweden :D Based on the scientific studies I mentioned above, and Swedish studies showing that 9/10 teenagers have a late diurnal rythm and 50% of all teenagers are sleep deprived, several Swedish high schools and collages have started experiments with evening classes. When he gets older, he can become a scientist. We are social misfits for ever - we work when we are alert and awake, be it from 5 am - 3-4 pm like my professor here, or from 11 am - 6-7 pm and then again between midnight and 2 am, like myself and many of my friends :D
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Postby DWEEB_33 » Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:02 am

my brother seems to think its funny to come into my room, open all the windows and pull my covers off me. this works, but its not the nicest way to wake someone up.

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Postby penguin_king » Sat Aug 23, 2008 3:24 am

sorry for the double post (does this even count as a double?)

but i think the smell of bacon and eggs is enough to pry any man away from his matress.

well, any man thats not a veggie.
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Postby Demortis » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:30 am

dragon wench wrote:So, given the demographics of these forums, I thought I'd come here for any advice or suggestions.
Basically, since we can't let him sleep to all hours during the school year, what on earth can we do to make the process of rousing him in the mornings less painful for all concerned?

Keep him awake 5 days aweek and let him sleep his weekends away. If he wants to play with his friends on the weekends he'll learn to wake up!!!:laugh: :p Well, in my dealing with this same problem I had to find something to motivate me to wake up for school, be it hearing one of the teachers rip on a student during class, or the fact that I got a girlfriend that I really cared for. Find something that will help motivate him and he should be fine. I do realize that this isnt the case everytime, but it worked for me.
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