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Cabalist or Stargazer?
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 1:56 am
by magic screen
Which one do you recommend?
I am now a Trickster/Celestial and I am not sure if the Cabalist or the Stargazer is the better 3rd class.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:09 pm
by galraen
magic screen wrote:Which one do you recommend?
I am now a Trickster/Celestial and I am not sure if the Cabalist or the Stargazer is the better 3rd class.
Personally I'd go with Stargazer, I get sick of having my spells disrupted nearly every time I get hit, so Iron Will is a favourite of mine. Also, whilst Drainlife works, the payback in terms of health gained is minimal. I also consider Celestial magic to be superior to Nether. Apart from Poison Cloud and the Drain Life spell (which is hideously expensive) Nether doesn't have much to offer IMO.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:28 am
by magic screen
Thanks for the advice.
Can I use the Summon Deathlord spell as a Trickster?
Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:42 am
by Iceman1963
galraen wrote:Personally I'd go with Stargazer, I get sick of having my spells disrupted nearly every time I get hit, so Iron Will is a favourite of mine. Also, whilst Drainlife works, the payback in terms of health gained is minimal. I also consider Celestial magic to be superior to Nether. Apart from Poison Cloud and the Drain Life spell (which is hideously expensive) Nether doesn't have much to offer IMO.
Evidently you have never used any of the nether spells to summon Deathlord, Feind. Beast, Giant, Gaurdian, or Summon Evil.. Whish are very powerful creatures to help you.. If you have your honor and bargain up as well as choosing the merchant heraldry your cost to buy goes significantly down and you can actually make money by selling items you just bought IMO.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:44 am
by Iceman1963
magic screen wrote:Thanks for the advice.
Can I use the Summon Deathlord spell as a Trickster?
Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?
No you don't get any experience for the monster killed because you can't do any damage to it yourself.. I never go that way because I've never had any use for that class.
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 4:12 pm
by swcarter
magic screen wrote:Will I get experience for the monsters killed by the summoned Deathlord?
My understanding is that you get experience for any creature killed where you do at least some of the damage yourself.
SWC
Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2006 4:01 pm
by galraen
Iceman1963 wrote:Evidently you have never used any of the nether spells to summon Deathlord, Feind. Beast, Giant, Gaurdian, or Summon Evil.. Whish are very powerful creatures to help you.. If you have your honor and bargain up as well as choosing the merchant heraldry your cost to buy goes significantly down and you can actually make money by selling items you just bought IMO.
I have in fact experimented with summoning those creatures, and gave up doing it for the very reason you stated in your subsequent post, plus the fact the darned things kept getting in my way. This was especially annoing when I was giving the Ranger Lord class a tryout, I ended up killing my own summons nearly every darned time. Casting Poison Cloud I found far more effective.
And yes I know all about breaking the bank, but I hate exploiting that bug, not saying that there's anything wrong with doing so, but for me it just breaks the game. And if you've got infinite gold, why bother with spending time and money on Drain life and not just buy 50 or so Cataclysms?
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 12:50 am
by magic screen
Thanks for the replies.
Can I buy every nether katal from merchants?
I haven't seen any mandrake root yet.
I want to try out the Hate nether spell
I will go for the Stargazer class, I can use the Deathlord spell as a Trickster already.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 5:34 am
by galraen
You can't find all the Katals in Alchemy shops, and Mandrake root is one of them. You either have to find it as random loot in a chest or the more powerful Harrowbarks drop them.
Dried Homonculous is another katal that can't be purchased, or found as random loot in my experience, only when dropped by a demon. You can aquire one by killing Voraatus in the tomb of souls, or (if you have the Demon Key) the demon in the sarcophogus.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 7:09 am
by DaTippMan
I have found that once you have the katal all you have to do is sell it to any merchant and then you can buy it back as often as you would like. Fargrove is cheaper for most of them. I found dragon tooth to be cheaper in skuldoon.
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 9:05 am
by magic screen
DaTippMan wrote:I have found that once you have the katal all you have to do is sell it to any merchant and then you can buy it back as often as you would like. Fargrove is cheaper for most of them. I found dragon tooth to be cheaper in skuldoon.
Thanks!

Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 8:47 pm
by Fullerton
Feros Duul in Skuldoon sells mandrake root. I just doubled checked it. And I haven't sold mandrake root. I have horded all the nether ingredients I have found because I didn't know if there was a vendor that sold any of them.
Thank you for the info on selling Dried Homonculous to a vendor so I can buy more. That is very useful knowledge.
Fullerton
Posted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 12:33 am
by file read error
Feros Duul sells a wider variety of kataals and spells if you're a member of the Arcane magic guild, and that might be the reason why he had the mandrake root. Also, anyone who wants to use deathlord beware: they have the potential of freezing the game solid in which case your only option is to reboot your computer, and that isn't funny (it's caused by bugs in their AI). Some people even reported that the deathlord turns on you after some time, meaning that it stops attacking monsters and instead it will attack YOU. I'd rather use Summon Evil instead.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:28 pm
by asheebeyle
What I recommend most to all is the cabal game its because I used to play it and I have my own character which is a force shielder..I have many skills like blade of judgment and many more..Hope you'll appreciate it!! Thanks!!
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:27 pm
by bandit11
Dried Homonculous
I discovered a dried homonculous in a treasure chest at the bottom of the lake Dread...that's the lake with the demon stone on the island, right? Anyway, the chest is a little ways toward the spell that Nauselom (or was it Volgar??) put on the water, and about 1/2 way across the lake. Just sayin I found one there, I don't know if the contents of the chest are the same every time??? My classes are Knight, Rogue, Budoka, and Samurai.