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Henchmen

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2001 10:59 pm
by josh
While preparing for a big battle, I started casting all the summon monster type spells but after 5 monsters were summoned, a message came up saying that I was not able to control more than 5 creatures at any time. Why is this so? Is it because of my charisma?

Also the manual says that with the Animate Dead spell for mages and priests, the number of undead summoned is proportional to the level of the caster but I can only get 3 at most. Why is this?

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2001 11:18 pm
by Xandax
The number of 5 summoned creatures is the maximum you can summon. It has nothing to do with stats, like charisma.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2001 12:23 am
by fable
Just remember, as they die in battle, you can summon more.

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2001 1:29 am
by Xyx
There are several ways to get around the "5 creature summoning limit".

Ettercaps, Worgs and some other summons (bears, IIRC) are incorrectly not flagged as summons, and will ignore the limit. This is a bug. Baldurdash has a fix.

I'm not 100% certain, but I bet demons also ignore the limit.

Creatures summoned by clones (Project Image, Simulacrum, Helm of Vhailor) do not check the limit either. A clone with some spells, scrolls of Staff of <element> can summon armies of creatures (without expending any of your own spells, scrolls or charges). (Needless to say, clone spells are the Kings of Cheese)

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2001 7:24 am
by Skeelo
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>(Needless to say, clone spells are the Kings of Cheese)</STRONG>
You got that right! This isn't BG1 Win-the-game-by-summoning-screens-full-of-knobgoblins. Josh quit ****in out and stomp your enemies yourself!

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2001 3:05 pm
by Doltan
Simulacrum somehow makes me feel dirty when my solo PC casts it. It's like I'm not being true to my intention to solo the game. For some reason, it's worse than the feeling I get when I summon a horde of ettercaps and ogre berzerkers.

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2001 10:21 am
by Xyx
Originally posted by Doltan:
<STRONG>Simulacrum somehow makes me feel dirty when my solo PC casts it.</STRONG>
That's because of the overwhelming cheese fumes :D

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2001 8:21 pm
by dionysus
And to answer the Animate Dead part of the question, instead of summoning more skeletons, it summons better ones (quality, not quantity, right?). As your caster's level increases, the HD of the skeleton also increases. Eventually, you'll get great Skeleton Warriors.

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 2:00 am
by Xyx
Animate Dead gives you 1-3 fodder skeletons if you're below level 15 (otherwise you get one Skeleton Warrior), the higher your level, the more likely you are to get the second and third one.