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Getting Elminster in your group?

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 7:36 pm
by yaanathn
Okay, a friend of mine at school (guy with too much free time, I think) claims that he was able to get the legendary Elminster into his group. When I asked how, he said that his party was just wandering around the world map when they ran into the great mage. Anyone else ever have this kind of fortune?

I'd love to get Elminster into my group. Level 29 mage, who can memorize level 9 spells (he did write them, didn't he? Haven't read any D&D books before...). Let's see Irenicus try this boy on for size. Mwa hahahahahaha...

Anyway, anyone ever do this? Oh yeah, and my friend didn't use any hacks or the like, either, he says.

- Jon, level 10 thief / 9 mageling

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 7:48 pm
by KidD01
I played the game for 2 times and wandering around a lot too but never have this chance. As far as i know Elminster only show up to give you and Jaheira his blessing and give u the Harper Pin.
I played for the 3rd times now (After meddling with RA2 and Mech4) And still got no Elminster sign, FYI i always wander around than completing the whole story now looking for new things.
i think you should recheck with your friend by look at his game personally as if this thing happen all our buddies here will post up way before you do. And i think some of us already played the game for lots of time too and never encounter this matter.
Clarification Folks ?

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 7:48 pm
by rapier
Well...I think your "friend" has a rather good fantasy...in other words...well, I don't think you can get him! Thats like having Ellesime or the like, too powerful...

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 7:56 pm
by Drakron Du´Dark
You CAN have anyone in our group if you use the CRLT Q cheat key.elmister show up in a diferent name but using the cheat key is bad because it can screw up the story line.

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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 7:58 pm
by KidD01
Originally posted by rapier:
Well...I think your "friend" has a rather good fantasy...in other words...well, I don't think you can get him! Thats like having Ellesime or the like, too powerful...
The i guess that friend got some big mouth, that require Lillacor to crack ! Go for the eyes BOO...go for the eyes !

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They can only kill me with golden bullet !

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 9:44 pm
by Jhareth of house Noquar
Actually, Elminster is a 44th level mage, as well as being a fairly well accomplished thief, and priest of Mystra.

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Jhareth of house Noquar

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 10:20 pm
by magusg
Since when is Elminster a thief? I've read a book or two on him, and it says nothing about him being a thief!

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 10:28 pm
by Jhareth of house Noquar
Have you read the Ed Greenwood books, Elminster: the making of a mage, and
Elminster in Myth Drannor? These books revealed a great deal about the young Elminster which I had no idea about... Interesting history, for sure!

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 10:34 pm
by magusg
I think the one I read was Elminster: The Making of a Mage. Or was it the Temptation of Elminster? Or both? I can't remember since I was trying to order both at the library.

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Magus, mighty sorcerer, and summoner of hordes of...magical flying swords

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 10:38 pm
by Jhareth of house Noquar
I haven't read Temptation of El yet, but it was recommended to me by a friend. Have you heard of the 7 sisters book? I haven't read it yet either,(rec. by the same friend) but it is a collection of 7 short stories, about 7 daughters of Mystra who are scattered across Faehrun. One is a drow, I'm not sure about the rest. As soon as I finish rereading the Asimov Foundation series I'll hit those next.

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Jhareth of house Noquar

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 11:00 pm
by mikel
Elminster is a figure of the forgotten realms and was first introduced in the rulebook with only small information when TSR created that world.
Many people wrote books and modules (and computer games) in which elminster is mentioned or play a role. And there are many different stories, a lot of information should be treated as rumors.
One example is his age, it varies up to a maximum of more than 2000 (two thousand) years.
Mage, mage/thief, sage, chronist with demigod status, a lot of interpretions can be found depending on the source you look.

That's Elminster, a legend nobody knows for sure what is the truth.

Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 11:00 pm
by magusg
Ug...I hardly have time anymore to play computer, read, AND keep up with my homework. I think I've heard of the book, but never read it. I prefer whole novels, or even better, trilogies. The next trilogy on my list is the first one of Drizzt. I've only read the last Drizzt trilogy so far.

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Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2001 11:20 pm
by Jhareth of house Noquar
I enjoyed the Icewind Dale trilogy...
> Going of topic a bit, but are there any Elric of Melnibone' fans here? If you enjoy epic fantasy writing, Michael Moorcocks Elric series RULES!!!

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Jhareth of house Noquar

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 8:40 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Jhareth of house Noquar:
I enjoyed the Icewind Dale trilogy...
> Going of topic a bit, but are there any Elric of Melnibone' fans here? If you enjoy epic fantasy writing, Michael Moorcocks Elric series RULES!!!

Yes, I've read some of his books ,wish I could read more but time doesn't give me the opportunity. Image

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Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 10:45 am
by Ivanhoe
Read every Moorcock book going. Elric was his first, and probably best, though.

And talking of oldie (but goldie) Fantasy books, the Lankhmar books take some beating - the Gray Mouser is one of the great creations.

I'm sorry to say that IMO the AD&D based books are generally rather trite.

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 11:48 am
by Jhareth of house Noquar
Yes, I would agree... alot of them seem to be written at a young teen level. There are a few good ones amongst all the drivel, however. I shouldn't complain though, I was about 11 or 12 when I started reading fantasy books and playing pnp AD&D... Somethings got to keep the genre alive!
... Regarding Elric, there is a fairly decent comic book adaptation of the original 6 books... Have you read the short story compilation called "Tales of the white wolf"... a couple by Moorcock, and others by folks like Gary Gygax & Neil Gaiman. Good stuff.

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Jhareth of house Noquar

Posted: Sun Jan 07, 2001 5:47 pm
by Drakron Du´Dark
I what to put the record strait
Elminster IS a 29lv mage(unless they change the level on 3rd edicion but THIS is 2nd edicion anyway).
A bit of history
Elminster was born more that 1150 years ago, he became a thift afther his parents death(Murder) at the age of 12 ,the magistrate of that time whanted to teach him magic but he refuse, he was visited my Mystra ,became a FEMALE(yes that is rigth) Cleric of mystra called Elmara, and finaly a mage,afther he avenge his parents he become a chosen of Mystra.He lost form lack of pratice his former classes profices and skills(he is just a normal mage that happens to be a chosen of mystra if that can be call normal)That is stated on "Heroes´ Lorebook". the book is from 1996.

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 4:37 pm
by Ivanhoe
Nope, Jhareth. I haven't read "Tales of the white wolf". However I have met both Moor**** and Gygax Image

What the hell's going on today? This dumbass **** thing is getting out of hand.

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Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 6:07 pm
by eledil
drakron i tried your cheat code but nobody shows up only a message Imageause sequence
well by the way i d like ask to moor**** lovers to explain what s so great in elric's books cause i thing they suck

Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2001 6:15 pm
by Drakron Du´Dark
Put the cursor over the people you what to join.hit pause if they start to run away.and you have the debug=1 on program optinons in the Baldur.ini .
Not everybody like some books (I hate the Dragon at..)but I heard good things about these ones.
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"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not became a monster... when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss gazes into you..."
Friedrich Nietzsche

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