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A week ago, KN expressed an interesting idea of both completing the Sarles quest and obtaining the Mace of Disruption +2: give Sarles the illithium then pickpocket it from him.
I tried the idea and found out that it is impossible to pickpocket the illithium back from Sarles. You can get a few gold coins form Sarles, that's all. Moreover, the illithium isn't stored anywhere in the Jystev estate. Giving the illithium to Sarles equals losing it.
It is a bit strange. I would understand if the mace were an evil tool: an evil party could be supposed to fail quests intentionally. But the mace isn't evil. It is an important piece of equipment against vampires and other level-draining creatures. Why a good party must fail a quest is a mystery.

Without spoiling - I'll just say that not giving Salas the Illitium(sp?) isen't the same as failing the quest.

I've actually never tried to give Salas the real Illitium

[This message has been edited by Xandax (edited 02-12-2001).]

Originally posted by Radek:
Giving the illithium to Sarles equals losing it.

Not exactly. You're right, it can't be pickpocketed, but you can kill Sarles and you'll find it on his corpse. You'll take a hard rep hit, and if you don't get out fast, you'll lose even more from the Jystevs. Not too viable for a good party, but it can be done

--Bargeld

I guess you can kill him, but I would HIGHLY not recommend doing that.Just give him the fake illithium.

You get more exp for this quest if you give out the real one, I think 20000, but frankly, I'd much rather have the upgrade on the Mace of Disruption.

Besides, I wouldn't exactly call the fake alloy solution to be "losing" the quest.
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Frankly, I prefered the response you get with the fake alloy. Sarles was an idiot, so I got a kick out of pissing him off, and the response of the temple folk to the alloy actually seemed more appropriate. Then of course there's the mace. To be perfectly honest, I think the fake alloy solution was actually supposed to be the "winner" here. A pretty good quest all around, if you ask me.

-BC

[This message has been edited by bootlegcorndogs (edited 02-13-2001).]