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drizzit's items partial spoiler
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 1:00 pm
by ben gerraty
after i killed drizzit's party and stole his items i went and killed bodi. when i left her hideout a wizard came and said that he wanted drizzit's items back. Of course i said no but he just took them anyway and dissapeared. is there any way to meet this wizard again or to kill him at the initial meating.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 6:03 pm
by DrSlikk
no, he is elminster and u can't take them back.if u use shadowkeeper he comes as well.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 7:13 pm
by Aegis
Actualy, it is Malchor Harpell, not elminster.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 7:24 pm
by fable
...Actually, it's the spirit of the programmers, who don't want you to have a bunch of overpowered goodies.

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 7:27 pm
by Aegis
Really? when I first saw him, I thought "Hey, how did Fable get a character in the game?"

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 7:54 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Aegis:
<STRONG>Really? when I first saw him, I thought "Hey, how did Fable get a character in the game?"

</STRONG>
But he has *your* tattoo, the one of the three nuns and the duck. You really should watch whom you show that to, you know.
Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2001 8:25 pm
by THE JAKER
I don't think Drizz't's parties items are that overpowered, anyway. I think the only reason i would want them is if I was a druid for the scimitars, other than that I think better stuff is available. I always just sell all the stuff. That way Harpell doesn't show up. The bladesinger chain is way better than Drizz'ts.
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 12:06 pm
by Xyx
The Defender +5 is really nice, the rest is just the difference between 200K gold and 240K gold...
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 5:55 pm
by Masteraleph
The reason they put him in is that in BG1, everyone and their brother killed Drizzt, who showed up alone. Of course, in BG1, he had awesome equipment. In BG 2 it's just average.
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 6:20 pm
by Aegis
Thats very true. Drizzt is very underpowered compared to what he should be in BG2.
Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 6:24 pm
by DrSlikk
No hes really not.16 lvl ranger, big deal.By TOB, u can easilly out class him.Now Elminster, now thats a problem

Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2001 7:20 pm
by Aegis
Yes, but lvl 16, in D&D terms, takes years to acheive. By you fighting him on even terms, it is a little unfair for him.
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:03 am
by Mini Me
I have an idea... havn't tried it though.
Drop drizzt's stuff before you go inside bodhi's lair (probs better to put it in a chest in the tomb next door. If the wizzie shows up only after Bodhi, he won't show up cuz you don't got the items on you, then just go collect them and enjoy .
I hope this works. Plz tell me what happens when you try.
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 11:30 am
by NeKr0mAnCeR
try this
put items on bag of holding
give to NPC
send NPC to copper cornet
kick bodhi's arse
go to copper cornet
get items
tell me if this workz
Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2001 12:09 pm
by THE JAKER
Originally posted by Xyx:
<STRONG>The Defender +5 is really nice, the rest is just the difference between 200K gold and 240K gold...</STRONG>
I'd use the defender if I had a dual wielding druid in the party. Drizzt is pretty tough one-on-one, he does a lot of damage, he's quick and he heals himself.
I had one fight where I took on Drizzts party and the wizard that comes looking for Edwina at the same time. That was fun, I think that Drizzts party doesn't have a strong wizard so it's neat to have one there.
My last party was always struggling for cash for some reason - I think cause my rep was always 8 or so, so even though I stole a lot of stuff, I had to cough up big dough at the adv. mart and the bonus merchants. (I didn't do the steal sell back trick, although I did steal stuff from some merchants and sell to the thieves guild, but not all that much - seems reasonable, that's what a fence is for

Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 2:44 am
by Xyx
I believe there's no easy work-around for Malchor. He's scripted to appear any time you have some of Drizzt's party's items on you (actually wearing them), no matter how often he's been around already.
On subsequent visits, he gets more and more annoyed, and will eventually Imprison the whole party in one go! How's that for cheese?
<rant>
Don't you just hate these cheap deus ex machina bail-outs? I mean, send The Most Noble Order of the Radiant Heart after me for killing Drizzt, or the (real) Harpers or something. Anything is better than (almost) blatantly telling the player something sensible isn't going to happen, period, because of supposed game balance issues.
</rant>
Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2001 6:15 pm
by Masteraleph
@Xyx-
I didn't mind Malchor too much, because although he's overly powerful, he does make sense, showing up in forgotten realms and all.
The annoying one was Arkanis Gath, who darn well isn't that powerful when he's helping you!
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 3:12 pm
by nat
Rot Melchor Rot!!!
Argh, read this after posting my note on the same question!
I guess there's no way to beat the game but I think its really CHEAP how they make it impossible by having you confront something you can't beat because they put something not balanced in the game
If you try to kill him after you give him the EQ he's unkillable btw. *mutter*
Its sort of like what happens if you try to kill Sarevok in BG1 when he showed up as Koveras (I mean its not that hard to spell his name back to front). He does get affected and doesn't fight. Its like the game is pretending something doesn't exist because it doesn't know what to do. *grumble*
Of course I still play the darn thing!!!
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 12:47 am
by Kaitsuburi
Somewhere I read that it was possible to kill the "immortals" via polymorphing your mage/sorceror to a mind flayer and draining out their intelligence. Has anyone successfully tried that?
I still have to play through SoA with an evil party, but when I do, I'll make sure I test my steel against Drizzt. It sort of goes with the alignment, no?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 9:39 am
by Silvanerian
Yeah, I killed Melchor Harpell outside Bodhis lair. Timestop and then shapechange into a mindflayer. But it took me 3 tries as he starts speaking right after he teleports in, and then it's too late. You have to time your timestop (haha) very carefully..
Anyway, after I killed him I thought "cool, I got him". Not that I really wanted the stuff, I just wanted to see if I could do it.
But when I travelled to another citymap, he reappeared...how grand...
So the conclusion is that you can kill him - once, twice as many times as you like, but he keeps coming back..so you can't use the weapons, unless he doesn't show up in Suldanessellar and ToB...
-Syl.