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Elemental criticals

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 4:24 am
by Stilgar
I'm carrying a shortsword that gives me +1d6 electrical damage.
With this sword i did a critaical hit for 14physical and 7electrical damage.

How can that be, elemental damage doesnt get multiplied and even if it was how can it be 7????

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:07 am
by Noober
What creature were you attacking? Was it vulnerable to fire? Did it have damage resistance? Were buffs used?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:12 am
by Stilgar
No buffs, no special imunities/weaknesses etc on the creature

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:15 am
by Xandax
My own experience with chest bashing and monster slicing - is that such extra damage infact *does* get multiplied.
I've seen many times that the elemental damage is higher then its nominal added value when I perform critical hits.

edit: posted editted text in my next post.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:17 am
by Stilgar
Ok but then how can it be 7???
7 Is a prime number, you cant get this with any multiplyer

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:20 am
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stilgar
Ok but then how can it be 7???
7 Is a prime number, you cant get this with any multiplyer


Bah - you are to fast :D
Dosen't even have time to edit my post first and answer, so snipping out the answer and posting here.


For how you got to hit for 7 I can't say for sure, that depends on the workings of the NwN engine.
For instance, instead of doubeling your damage on a critical hit - it could simply double your hit die.
So a sword doing 1d8 19-20 x2 could be calcuated as a 2d16 when rolling a critical.

Edit: this would give access to "prime" numbers ;)

But this is speculation, but some observation when hitting stuff should be able to indicate if this is true.

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:21 am
by Noober
When you get a critical, you roll damage twice (or three times etc.), as opposed to doubling/tripling etc. the damage. In D&D 3.0 there is a 'flame burst' effect which is basically just a 'flame' (1d6 extra fire damage) effect but on a critical does 1d10 damage, perhaps NWN uses this?

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:23 am
by Stilgar
Ok, thanks,
this was bugging me for some time now.

Thanks

Posted: Tue May 25, 2004 5:24 am
by Xandax
Originally posted by Noober
When you get a critical, you roll damage twice (or three times etc.), as opposed to doubling/tripling etc. the damage.<snip>


It might be this way according to the rules, but I don't know if this is how the NwN engien works.

Edit: but according to my own experiences - elemental damage does get affected by a critical. It seems to get affected by the critical multiplier also. But I've not really taken notes of it... could start when I get another weapon in my current game :D
(Last game I played with sonic and acid damage, and saw higher then nominal hits on criticals)