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Woe is Me...

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 2:19 am
by Chanak
Is there another thread like this one somewhere in the dark reaches of the lost pages of SYM? There might be. *sigh* I am simply too depressed - and lazy - to go look.

If one is going to be depressed, one ought to do so with gusto. After all, what's the point of moping around half-heartedly? You certainly wouldn't dream of being partially happy when you have reason to be happy. With this in mind, I'd like to moan about my woes here in this thread. Gloom, despair, and agony on me. :(

Since misery loves company, you are more than welcome to join me here. Moan and groan about your woes. Spam is of course not welcome, but hey, it's going to show up anyway. Why bother adding "No Spam" to the title?

Actually, now that I come to think about it, this thread might be considered spam...... :(

Spam - *siggghhhhh* Everything I post is spam. Whether it's serious or lighthearted, that's all it is...spam. This is spam, too.

I hate spam. :mad:

I even entertained the foolish notion that an extended absence from SYM would cure me of this disgusting malady...alas, here I am once again opening the can of proverbial spam.

NWN - Sadness. All of the time I spent playing through the official campaign (*sigh*) with different characters; the energy I devoted to dreaming up a campaign world; the stories I worked on late into the night to implement....all a waste. A shameful waste.

Black Isle and Bioware (related to above) - More sadness. What NWN could have been if people weren't so concerned with the bottom line. A wonderful game was prevented from existing.

My Automobile - I suspect that it continues to operate only by the force of my will. It is a rattling trap of pistons and steel that is doomed to die in some remote location...like on Highway 157 in Alabama. I will of course be in it, and I will be lamenting not being able to afford a better one to drive. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. :(

My Life - Or lack of one. *siiigggghhhhhhhh*

Friends - My lack thereof. Oh, I have some good online friends - just a few - but that doesn't help at all after the computer's turned off................mucho sadness here.

That's it for now. I'm too depressed to wail any further at the moment.

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:06 am
by Osiris
Originally posted by Chanak
Since misery loves company.....
Bad luck, Chanak, I'm very happy and at peace with the world at the moment..

...of course, that's ignoring the fact I have a couple of hours of typing to do tonight, which I wouldn't have had to do if I hadn't spent all day just bumming around, reading and watching football...

....then there's bills just come in which I have to find some way to pay, not even to consider my tax return due this month sometime...

At least, my cars going OK, apart from that brake warning light that's been on for the last couple of weeks.

Think I'll just go off and mope somewhere..... :cool:

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 3:13 am
by Chanak
Bad luck, Chanak, I'm very happy and at peace with the world at the moment..


Right. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. :rolleyes: :(

Thanks.

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:17 am
by C Elegans
Sorry to hear you are down, Chanak :( There has been several other threads here regarding depression, and you are far from alone. Most people are depressed at some point in their lives, it seems like part of human existence, however unpleasant it is.

I agree with you NWN was a disappointment, I actually quit playing it in the end of chapter 2, couldn't be bothered, although I actually had time to play it.

Regarding online friends, they may not be there when you turn off your computer, but the same goes for all friends in a way. I have many friends, but they aren't with me all the time and they are not available to me all the time, just as I am not available to them all the time...the friendship is still there, though. I only meet my best friends maybe once or twice a month, everybody is busy with work, family and other things. We chat by phone or send emails to each other in between the meetings...The difference may not be that big.

Why don't you arrange a meeting with your online friends? Do they all live very far away?

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 7:57 am
by der Moench
Hmmmm ... A depressed Commer? Unacceptable!

Chanak, my friend in Comm, despair not! I am not one to get depressed myself, and so perhaps I may talk over a few of your points and help you see the brighter side.

First off: Comm. What you have done here is not Spam. Nor, as far as I have seen, has anything you have ever written been spam. I refer you back to one of my original posts to you on the subject of what is spam - suffice it to say, you (IMO) are incapable of it. :)

NWN / Bioware / Black Isle. Indeed. There is cause for lamentations here. :( So, do not dwell on it. Do not sit and think of what "might have been." Madness lies in such a course. If you are a computer programmer, set out to do better yourself. If you are a regular Joe Peon Braumeister (like myself), content yourself in the knowledge that games will continue to be produced, and they (most likely) will continue to improve. In the meantime, get out and enjoy some sun! :)

Automobile. Ah, yes. A sore point for me as well right now. :mad: But if it is (as you say) your strength of will alone that keeps the vehicle running, rejoice in your strength of will! Also, remember: this is America. No one goes for long without an automobile. ;)

Life / friend -- lack thereof. Well, I have told my ex this time and time again: if you want friends, you have to spend the time and effort in finding them and keeping them. It is simply a choice. Would you rather take the time hanging around bars or coffee shops looking for prospective friends - or would you rather cozy up in your room with a good book and/or computer? The choice is yours, and I make no moral evaluation of one against the other. But understand that it is not always possible to have it both ways. You have to decide what kind of person you want to be, and pursue that which is going to make you happy. :)

There now! Enough "woe is me" - ! Get up and out of those doldrums - 'cos you're a long time dead (as the poet hath it). :p

Peace. :cool:

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:37 am
by T'lainya
Hi Chanak,
1. Your post isn't spam (trust me, I know spam..looks at post count and winces)
2. NWN I can't help ya there :(
3.Online friends..i have to agree with CE on that :) It's sometimes difficult for me to coordinate with my RL friends schedules, but that doesn't mean that our friendship is diminished in any way, it just makes the time with them so much the sweeter :) I consider my online firends the same way, distance doesn't mean much, they're still people whose company and conversation I enjoy.
4.Cars..grrr unstable beasts they are.

Hopefully things will look up for you *hug*

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:29 pm
by Weasel
Originally posted by Chanak


1.Spam - *siggghhhhh* Everything I post is spam. Whether it's serious or lighthearted, that's all it is...spam. This is spam, too.

I hate spam. :mad:

2.I even entertained the foolish notion that an extended absence from SYM would cure me of this disgusting malady...alas, here I am once again opening the can of proverbial spam.

3.NWN - Sadness. All of the time I spent playing through the official campaign (*sigh*) with different characters; the energy I devoted to dreaming up a campaign world; the stories I worked on late into the night to implement....all a waste. A shameful waste.

4.Black Isle and Bioware (related to above) - More sadness. What NWN could have been if people weren't so concerned with the bottom line. A wonderful game was prevented from existing.

5.My Automobile - I suspect that it continues to operate only by the force of my will. It is a rattling trap of pistons and steel that is doomed to die in some remote location...like on Highway 157 in Alabama. I will of course be in it, and I will be lamenting not being able to afford a better one to drive. If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all. :(

6.My Life - Or lack of one. *siiigggghhhhhhhh*

7.Friends - My lack thereof. Oh, I have some good online friends - just a few - but that doesn't help at all after the computer's turned off................mucho sadness here.
1. A member of COMM doesn't spam..even if it is spam. Your thought provoking post are an example to COMM and the world.

2.Avoiding is not good..even thought I don't believe this is spam, avoiding will not be the best thing. Let COMM lead without trying to lead it. ;)

3. Progress..progress. For every failed game, one will rise. Time will bring the game everyone expects.

4. The down side of progress...but it is a downside we all must live with. Stagnation is the other way. :(

5. Problems? I might can help..I might even be in the area of Highway 157 and I can promise I will stop and help. ;)

6.1 thru 5 makes it seem this way...but take my saying to heart. "If your on the bottom, you can't fall further...Up is the only wat to go now"

7. This is one I can't help with..I'm a certified loner. I keep very few friends in RL....a book is my best RL friend..(Behind wife and kids)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:39 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Chanak
Friends - My lack thereof. Oh, I have some good online friends - just a few - but that doesn't help at all after the computer's turned off................mucho sadness here.
Have you tried to discover whether there's a computer game club in your area, or checked out the "Internet cafes?" These things offer the possibility of a shared interest. :)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 6:10 pm
by Kayless
I feel your pain Chanak. In fact, you're preaching to the choir. Just a few days ago I lost the Cartoon Network (I wasn’t supposed to get the channel anyway, but I got use to having it for a few weeks; I guess they let you have a channel for a few weeks to get you hooked). Now I’m going to miss the season première of Samurai Jack, new episodes of the He-Man remake, and my much beloved Adult Swim. I’m so depressed I can’t even blink… Image Image

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:39 pm
by Chanak
@Kayless - Wow. Losing Cartoon Network is a horrible thing. What would I do without my frequent Looney Tunes fixes? :(

There's a "He-Man" remake? Oh my. What is the world coming to? *siggghhhhhh*

@Weasel: I always suspected you were a nice guy. ;) I'm thinking about the last time I made a trip to Atlanta to visit the folks; the best way to go there is to cut down into Mississippi, then zip over to 157 into good old Alabama, then I-65 to Birmingham. Get on I-20 there and the rest of the trip is a straight shot east. It saves an hour or two vs. going towards Chattanooga. The last time I did it my thermostat stuck, and that prehistoric van I drive was in danger of losing it. Naturally, I do not possess a cell phone. I had to sit it out for a while on the side of the road. Every gas station in the vicinity was closed - it was the 4th of July. :(

@der Moench: Alas, I am the brooding sort, so oft times dark thoughts overcome me. It is also during these times that I produce the most artistically. *Sigh* I wish it weren't so. I am stricken by moodiness.

Your words are encouraging. I have, however, long since resigned the post of the Direktor of the COMM Intelligence Agency. Certainly there is one more worthy than I awaiting that mantle of leadership. Let that one come forth, I say!

@fable: Thanks for the suggestion. Perhaps I should look into that.

@T'lainya: Thanks for the "no spam" vote of confidence. You are kind, indeed. :)

I fear I am somewhat the cynic when I am in a dark mood. Ambrose Bierce, eat your heart out!

@CE: Meeting my OL friends is a great suggestion. As far as those I am closest to, personally - yes, they do indeed live far away. The SYMers closest to me, distance-wise, would be BS and Weasel, both probably only a few hours' drive from where I live. If I started walking now, I might see one of them in a few weeks. ;)

@All: Your encouraging words are making it difficult to moan about my woes with gusto. ;)

Thanks. :)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:46 pm
by Bloodstalker
There's a "He-Man" remake?


There is also a very bad, horrible Transformers new series. :mad: Nothing is sacred :rolleyes:

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 10:59 pm
by Weasel
Originally posted by Chanak


@Weasel: I always suspected you were a nice guy. ;) I'm thinking about the last time I made a trip to Atlanta to visit the folks; the best way to go there is to cut down into Mississippi, then zip over to 157 into good old Alabama, then I-65 to Birmingham. Get on I-20 there and the rest of the trip is a straight shot east. It saves an hour or two vs. going towards Chattanooga. The last time I did it my thermostat stuck, and that prehistoric van I drive was in danger of losing it. Naturally, I do not possess a cell phone. I had to sit it out for a while on the side of the road. Every gas station in the vicinity was closed - it was the 4th of July. :(

The curse of Alabama...everything closes on Holidays and at 11:00 PM.

But for a thermostat that sticks.....always carry a screwdriver, hammer and one gallon of water. (Quick solution..which you most likely know..but might help someone one day)

First...WARNING the water and steam in the radiator will burn you. I learned the hard way at 15 years old. Let the engine cool down, the chance of busting a head on the block is slim as long as you stop once the motor runs hot.

Once it has cooled remove the radiator cap slowly,then take the screw driver and remove the top radiator hose. Insert screwdriver into the opening( thermostat housing) where the hose came from and hit the end of screw driver with the hammer..in other words forcing a hole in the thermostat. Reattach hose, fill with water and check for leaks. This should get you back on the road.

Broken Belt..always carry a pack of panty hoses. They are a great replacement for broken belts. Make sure the engine and ignition is off.

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:07 pm
by Chanak
Nothing is sacred


I think it all started waaaaaaay back, when they made the Flintstones movie. *eechhh* :eek:

Uh oh, new woes coming on. :(

Scooby Doo - Why, oh why, did they make a movie based on that Hanna-Barberra cartoon?

Why? :(

The Lord of the Rings - Alas, they have slaughtered J.R.R. Tolkien's grand saga, and reduced it to a box office filibuster, complete with a love story that never existed in the master storyteller's tale. Mucho grande sadness. :(

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:14 pm
by Chanak
@Weasel:
Broken Belt..always carry a pack of panty hoses. They are a great replacement for broken belts. Make sure the engine and ignition is off.


Hmmm...interesting solution. ;)

You know, I read somewhere that Duct tape, and some baling wire, make a great replacement belt. In fact, the story I read related that the guy who did this cruised home with no problems. However, he had to use a cutting torch to get it off. :D

Hey, now I remember where I read that...a calendar called 365 Days of Duct Tape. Great reading, that was. Pretty funny.
The curse of Alabama...everything closes on Holidays and at 11:00 PM.


Also the curse of certain parts of Tennessee. Everything except Wal-Mart, that is. :D

Thanks for the auto suggestions. Very handy.

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 11:22 pm
by Weasel
Originally posted by Chanak
@Weasel:



Also the curse of certain parts of Tennessee. Everything except Wal-Mart, that is. :D

Thanks for the auto suggestions. Very handy.
@Chanak, I was luck to be born into a family of auto maniacs :D All three of my uncles were into racing and I followed somewhat in their foot steps.


As to the nice guy thing. :D I admit if I see someone broke down beside the road, I will stop and try to help. Both my wife and my mother say..in these times in the world it's not safe to stop and help strangers...but I find I cannot drive on by.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:31 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Originally posted by Bloodstalker


There is also a very bad, horrible Transformers new series. :mad: Nothing is sacred :rolleyes:
Nooooooo! Someone stop them from further mauling my childhood! :eek: :mad:

@Chanak-I have a number of suggestions that may help.
1), Come to Western Australia for a while, I can almost guarantee there'll be some way of having a good time. I have a car, and you have a driver's liscence, so that would solve the problem of distance.
Ideally not at the end of the year though, as I'm going to Brazil then.
New Years Eve party in Brazil! Yeah!
2), Go out and buy an old videogames console (SNES is best, with SF2 Turbo as we discussed ;) ). It won't solve everything but it'll help.
3), Umm, I forget no. 3. So I'll replace it with a tried and tested formula-get nicely baked and listen to Wish You Were Here. It works for me.

More coming as I remember them.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:23 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
Umm, I forget no. 3. So I'll replace it with a tried and tested formula-get nicely baked and listen to Wish You Were Here. It works for me.

More coming as I remember them.
There wouldn't be a connection between "Getting baked" and you forgetting what you are talking about? :p :D

Chanak man, i can't say i can relate to the car troubles too much, my current car has been perfect in nearly every respect. However i used to have Vauxhall Nova (devil ;) ) it has to be the biggest piece of crap ever to spend it's time on the road. Actually it didn't spend its time on the road it spent most of it on the side! I'll give you a brief example.

Go around someones house to put a scanner on their computer for them, fair enough, half an hour job since i have to give them some basic instructions. Of course i have left my lights on like the silly boy i am.

Next thing i know i try to run start my little Nova, about it's only redeeming feature was how light it was. My old gran could probably have pushed it. So anyway i discover it will run start for about 10 seconds then die out...so i ring my dad! :D My first and best hope when there are car problems.

We muck around a little with it, trying to get it started...no real luck until we jump start it for the fifth time, my da drives to the end of the road (while i rev the engine to death) i then slam it into first and drive off, spluttering the entire way. I get to the end of the road and i have to turn a junction, my dad waves me on so i floor it. I speed through the thirty going 45 in 2nd because if i change gears it just cuts out... i get about 2 miles down the road, i was thinking yeah i only have another 6 and i am home...but no it's not to be i basically threw it in a hedge to get it off the main road.

I HATE my nova.

Anyway Chanak, cheer up, or at least laugh at my previously crap car! :D Plus you don't spam not even close, spam is jus posting " :p :D " ;)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:38 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Originally posted by Mr Sleep


There wouldn't be a connection between "Getting baked" and you forgetting what you are talking about? :p :D
There may have been, I forget. :D ;)

Annoyingly my copy of Wish You Were Here has started dying. :( Guess I'll have to get another one now.

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:30 am
by Georgi
Do I get to celebrate 10k again?
Originally posted by Ode to a Grasshopper
1), Come to Western Australia for a while, I can almost guarantee there'll be some way of having a good time.
Well, it worked for me... :D ;) I especially recommend listening to Odie's mum telling stories about him... most amusing :p Of course, there's always the incredible scenery, great weather, and opportunity for things like snorkelling, abseiling, etc etc if you like that too... :D
Although my copy of Wish You Were Here has started dying.
Wasn't me... :o ;)

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:37 am
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Re: Do I get to celebrate 10k again?
Originally posted by Georgi


Wasn't me... :o ;)
It was fine until I tried playing it for you. :p

Quick, someone delete another one post thread! :D

I suggest any visitors to WA also have a go at beating english tourists at beat 'em ups :p , and possibly having your hair put in braids. :cool: