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True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:33 pm
by Sailor Saturn
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So, what are your thoughts on this?

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:37 pm
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn
So, what are your thoughts on this?
That is a square not a box, so the statement lies twice. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:40 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Mr Sleep


That is a square not a box, so the statement lies twice. :)
I take it you have trouble on tests that say check the box of the correct answer. :rolleyes: ;) :p

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:45 pm
by Mr Sleep
Re: Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn


I take it you have trouble on tests that say check the box of the correct answer. :rolleyes: ;) :p
I just always say in the comment square that they are wrong :D :D

Seriously though what did you want from this test? Since this is a virtual world and the box/square doesn't exist then the lie or truth don't exist :p ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:55 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Re: Re: Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Mr Sleep


I just always say in the comment square that they are wrong :D :D

Seriously though what did you want from this test? Since this is a virtual world and the box/square doesn't exist then the lie or truth don't exist :p ;)
It's a concept, so reality is of no significance. :p

I would congratulate you for thinking outside the box, but if there is no box, then you couldn't have been thinking outside of it. ;) :p :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 5:58 pm
by Aegis
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn


It's a concept, so reality is of no significance. :p

I would congratulate you for thinking outside the box, but if there is no box, then you couldn't have been thinking outside of it. ;) :p :D
But are we not thinking inside of the box, as we all have three dimensions of perception? We cannot be sure if it is a circle we live in nor, that we have three dimensions. Perhaps the term thinking outside the box is merely rhetorical, and there really is no box. On the other hand, what we perceive as a circle may be a box, and a box may be a circle. Perhaps our entire line of reasoning and perception if flawed, and that square really is the boxy, and it is we who are wrong.... :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:00 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn
So, what are your thoughts on this?
Well, I think it looks like a broken link :p :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:01 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Aegis
But are we not thinking inside of the box, as we all have three dimensions of perception? We cannot be sure if it is a circle we live in nor, that we have three dimensions. Perhaps the term thinking outside the box is merely rhetorical, and there really is no box. On the other hand, what we perceive as a circle may be a box, and a box may be a circle. Perhaps our entire line of reasoning and perception if flawed, and that square really is the boxy, and it is we who are wrong.... :D
:eek: Such profoundness and from I Sage, no less! :eek:

I would say something more about what you've said, but I think you broke my "brain." :o

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:02 pm
by Aegis
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn


:eek: Such profoundness and from I Sage, no less! :eek:

I would say something more about what you've said, but I think you broke my "brain." :o
I try... :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:03 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Georgi


Well, I think it looks like a broken link :p :D

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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:06 pm
by Georgi
Re: Re: True Lies (No spam? Well, maybe a little. ^_~)
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
That is a square not a box, so the statement lies twice.
It's not a square, it's a rectangle :p
Posted by SS:
Such profoundness and from I Sage, no less!
Profoundness... that's one word for it... I can think of a few others :D

The link was broken :rolleyes: But I fixed it now, not to worry ;)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:07 pm
by AbysmalNature
Maybe we never think outside the box, because our perceptions are shaped by living inside the box, so what is there to shape living outside of the box. The lie, lets see, I am thinking and yes it hurts, is a product of human beings perceptions, often we place little boxes over ourselves which constrain us from doing certain things, but sometimes we fail to realize that these boxes are a product of our own creation, and instead tend to believe that what is inside the box is reality. But then something comes from outside the box, and human perception either denies it exists or changes accordingly, but either way it is a formation of a new box. Can humans think without a box, that is to say without boundaries, well maybe maybe not.

Also keep in mind this elegant philosophical conundrum, was fostered by a X in a box, which was made by some weird and twisted SYMer, so all this philosphical frilly stuff might just be product of her master plan to do what I do not know, might never figure it out, oh stop that paranoia again, what was I doing again oh yeah was thinking of saying something witty and intelligent ended up saying something completely nuts, oh well thats me. :)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 6:24 pm
by Dottie
I think nothing outside the box is the truth, So you are all wrong since you are not writing in the box. (and so am I, I guess)

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 8:09 pm
by Aegis
Originally posted by AbysmalNature
Maybe we never think outside the box, because our perceptions are shaped by living inside the box, so what is there to shape living outside of the box. The lie, lets see, I am thinking and yes it hurts, is a product of human beings perceptions, often we place little boxes over ourselves which constrain us from doing certain things, but sometimes we fail to realize that these boxes are a product of our own creation, and instead tend to believe that what is inside the box is reality. But then something comes from outside the box, and human perception either denies it exists or changes accordingly, but either way it is a formation of a new box. Can humans think without a box, that is to say without boundaries, well maybe maybe not.

Also keep in mind this elegant philosophical conundrum, was fostered by a X in a box, which was made by some weird and twisted SYMer, so all this philosphical frilly stuff might just be product of her master plan to do what I do not know, might never figure it out, oh stop that paranoia again, what was I doing again oh yeah was thinking of saying something witty and intelligent ended up saying something completely nuts, oh well thats me. :)
Yes, but then we must ask ourselves, does the box truly *exist* or is it merely *there*. If it is merely *there* then how can we judge what is inside of it. When we can claim that it *exists* then we can define what we *know* of the box, and whether or not it is a physical *manifest* or out thoughts, or rather an actual *existing* thing... :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 8:45 pm
by Bloodstalker
Yes Aegis, but then, who is to say what it is to *exist*? Can one be truly certain that that which they percieve to exist is in fact reality, or simply that which has been impreesed upon their conscienseness. Before one can say that a thing exists, one must frist know what it is to exist, otherwise all attepts at classification are simply uninformed musing. So, one must first journey within, and find Be and exist for themselves, before they can percieve that which is around them clearly...

Be, my Children...Be :cool:

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 8:51 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Bloodstalker
Be my Children
I still refuse to be your child! ;) :p :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 9:06 pm
by AbysmalNature
Ahhhhh my brain hurts, to much high thoughts barraging through, no more no more, does the box exist or does it not, oh the horror, the horror,

BS apparently has quite a fatherly attitude towards us people, seems to think we are his children or something, maybe its too much beer. :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 10:21 pm
by Bloodstalker
Not the beer AN, just my calling from the Swirling Light Thingie. :cool:

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 10:27 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Bloodstalker
Not the beer AN, just my calling from the Swirling Light Thingie. :cool:
But if you become our father, you won't be able to flirt with us girls. ;) :p

Hmm...maybe I should reconsider being your child. ;) :p :D

Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 10:35 pm
by Aegis
Originally posted by Bloodstalker
Yes Aegis, but then, who is to say what it is to *exist*? Can one be truly certain that that which they percieve to exist is in fact reality, or simply that which has been impreesed upon their conscienseness. Before one can say that a thing exists, one must frist know what it is to exist, otherwise all attepts at classification are simply uninformed musing. So, one must first journey within, and find Be and exist for themselves, before they can percieve that which is around them clearly...

Be, my Children...Be :cool:
Yes, but to *exist* in this higher plane of consciousness, one must *know* themselves first. To acheive that point, one must *become* what they are not, and *know* what they are. To *exist* in this plane is the same to *exist* in the plane where the box does not. The question is, is the boxy really there, and does it *exist*? Or is the box something else, and we do not yet *know* what it is, and where it *exists*?