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Taste buds?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2001 2:04 pm
by Craig
Do we taste diferent thing than other people or do i not like the taste everyone tastes?
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2001 2:07 pm
by Bloodstalker
uh.....huh?

Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2001 4:34 pm
by C Elegans
All humans have the same basic system for taking in taste - taste buds connected to other cells that lead the taste-sensation into your brain, for interpretation. Also, out smell (olfaction system) is very closely related to taste. But since we are all likely to interpret a taste differently depending on what we are used to and what we information we have previously stored in our brain about tastes, none of us will probably experience excactly the same taste, even if it is the same chemically.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2001 6:33 pm
by Aegis
Uh, wah?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 5:59 am
by Craig
so i taste things differently?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:51 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>so i taste things differently?</STRONG>
Yes. To put it simple, if you and I eat the same thing, it would taste a bit differently to you than to me.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 12:56 pm
by Stoner Cold
but, some things are so down-right-disgusting (sprouts or brocolli) that no-one likes them, even if they do interprit them differently. and vice versa for nice stuff, oike chocolate

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 1:33 pm
by Craig
I like sprouts and brocolli and i don't eat much choclate
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 1:41 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>I like sprouts and brocolli and i don't eat much choclate</STRONG>
As I said - taste in quite individual

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 4:37 pm
by Aegis
Does that have something to do with the strands of DNA in each person, and the distinct genetic make-up in each person?
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 4:56 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Aegis:
<STRONG>Does that have something to do with the strands of DNA in each person, and the distinct genetic make-up in each person?</STRONG>
Genetically, we should be very similar when it comes to genes coding for taste buds (taste buds are a kind of chemical receptors, really) and the rest of the taste- and olfaction system in the brain. My guess is that only a small part of the individual differences is due to genetic differences.
Rather, the differences in experienced taste in depending on what we experience and learn our nervous system during our life. Just as with perception and interpretation of colour: In some polynesian cultures, people only makes a difference between "black", "white" and "something in between". Studies of these people have been carried out, and since they have no words and no concepts for, let's say "blue" and "green", they experience blue and green as the same colour, just as we experince one hue of blue and another hue of blue as the same colour.
Eh, my explanation is getting more and more messy, it's almost 2 am here. Hope you understand my point

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 4:59 pm
by Aegis
Load and Clear. You should get some rest. Go to bed C E.

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2001 5:00 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by C Elegans:
<STRONG>Genetically, we should be very similar when it comes to genes coding for taste buds (taste buds are a kind of chemical receptors, really) and the rest of the taste- and olfaction system in the brain. My guess is that only a small part of the individual differences is due to genetic differences.
Rather, the differences in experienced taste in depending on what we experience and learn our nervous system during our life. Just as with perception and interpretation of colour: In some polynesian cultures, people only makes a difference between "black", "white" and "something in between". Studies of these people have been carried out, and since they have no words and no concepts for, let's say "blue" and "green", they experience blue and green as the same colour, just as we experince one hue of blue and another hue of blue as the same colour.
Eh, my explanation is getting more and more messy, it's almost 2 am here. Hope you understand my point

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Speaking of colours, I ate some fish somewhere once that tasted yellowish.

Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 11:31 am
by Craig
That don't sound good
Posted: Fri Sep 14, 2001 5:34 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>Speaking of colours, I ate some fish somewhere once that tasted yellowish.

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There's actually a special condition, I don't remember the name of it know, but this condition makes people experience a sensation in one modality (for instance, taste) as a sensation in another sensory modality (like a sound or a visual effect).
Strange, isn't it? It's not really a disease since it's not dangerous in any way, and it's very unusual.
EDIT: Now I remember what it's called:
synesthetia - unsure about the spelling though.
[ 09-14-2001: Message edited by: C Elegans ]
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2001 7:24 am
by Craig
So is that why i feel sick when i eat mushrooms and semolina(is no meal)
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:00 am
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by C Elegans:
<STRONG>

There's actually a special condition, I don't remember the name of it know, but this condition makes people experience a sensation in one modality (for instance, taste) as a sensation in another sensory modality (like a sound or a visual effect).
Strange, isn't it? It's not really a disease since it's not dangerous in any way, and it's very unusual.
EDIT: Now I remember what it's called:
synesthetia - unsure about the spelling though.
</STRONG>
Synesthesia: Experiencing one sense in terms normally associated with another sense; for example, "seeing" sounds as colors.
*puts away psychology textbook*
I don't think it is as rare as it might seem. Have you noticed that spicy food
tastes hot, but
hot is a something you feel by touch, not something you taste. It feels hot in your mouth because it burns your mouth. You can't really taste heat. This may be more of a linguistical error on the part of humans, but it does seem to fit the idea of synesthesia.

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2001 8:15 am
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>I don't think it is as rare as it might seem. Have you noticed that spicy food
tastes hot, but
hot is a something you feel by touch, not something you taste. It feels hot in your mouth because it burns your mouth. You can't really taste heat. This may be more of a linguistical error on the part of humans, but it does seem to fit the idea of synesthesia.

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I think associating between our senses, and
amodal perception is very common. "Achitecture is like frozen music" is a famous quote from J Joyce.
But IIRC, the condition of synesthesia is more intentense and constant, I remember a case I read about an English lady, who every time whe heard the train signals at the station, immediatley saw patterns of colours and light that used to give her a headache. Famous Russian neurologist Alexander Luria also described a case of a guy who experinced letters and numbers as having colours and tastes. Luria's case fortunatly didn't suffer from the condition.

Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2001 9:16 am
by Craig
I guessed my familys favourate colours
Posted: Sat Sep 15, 2001 9:27 am
by C Elegans
Originally posted by craig:
<STRONG>So is that why i feel sick when i eat mushrooms and semolina(is no meal)</STRONG>
Don't eat it if you feel sick from it. What is semolina?