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Its been awhile since I've done that one.. but Im pretty sure there was a certain order "echoes" you had to follow. But like I said it was long back, so you can either check the walkthrough [url="http://www.gamebanshee.com/oblivion/walkthrough/thehelplessarmy.php"]here[/url] OR check [url="http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:The_Helpless_Army"]here[/url] for more info.kidwhimpy wrote:I hope someone has some ideas...I am doing the "Helpless Army" quest and I am in the room where you have to shatter the crystal over the wellspring by ringing the chimes. I have rung all four chimes and nothing happens. Is there a certain order you do these? HELP!