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Nordom stat boosting question (spoiler)

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:34 pm
by Klorox
Planescape: Torment @ GameBanshee

It says here that Nordom gets bonuses from a conversation if you have certain stats and are of the correct class. It lists different bonuses for a 17+ STR (as a Fighter), 17+ DEX (Thief) and 17+ INT (Mage).

My question is this: Can Nordom get multiple bonuses, if you have the prerequisite stats and talk to him multiple times as a different class?

ie: Can he get the Fighter and Mage bonuses if you have Dak'kon in your party to change your class and have both a 17 STR and INT?

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:23 pm
by fable
I've only ever been able to raise his stats relevant to the profession my character had when initiating that dialog branch.

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:16 am
by VonDondu
Klorox wrote:My question is this: Can Nordom get multiple bonuses, if you have the prerequisite stats and talk to him multiple times as a different class?
Yes. Multiple upgrades are possible. (I'm using a couple of mods, but I also checked the dialogues in the unpatched game and I didn't see any restrictions on the class upgrades.)

However, I prefer not to implement the Thief upgrade because I think in Nordom's case, higher Strength is better than higher Dexterity since his attacks receive a Strength bonus.

Under the best conditions (Strength > 16, Intelligence > 16, and Charisma 25), I think the best stats Nordom can get are as follows (without the Thief upgrade):

STR 18 (+2 from ordering him to "be more than you can be")
INT 18 (+1 from telling him you're the new Creative Director, +1 from telling him that his separation from the Source has caused his shift in perspective, +2 from telling him to clear out all the junk in his system, and -2 from the combat refocusing upgrade)
WIS 8
DEX 18 (+1 from telling him you're the new Creative Director, +1 from the combat refocusing upgrade)
CON 19 (+1 from telling him that his separation from the Source has caused his shift in perspective, +1 from ordering him to "be more than you can be", and +1 from the combat refocusing upgrade)
CHA 8
AC -4 (+2 maximum from ordering him to "be more than you can be" and +2 from the combat refocusing upgrade)

If you really want him to reach his full potential, then clean out the dungeon in the Rubikon over and over again (I set the difficulty to "Easy" so I can get more stuff faster) so you can find new lenses and bolts for him. (I prefer the Lens of Seeing Double.) Later on, try to find an Aegis of Torment for him so he can regenerate hit points (it's a randomly dropped item that can be found on a respawning monster). Since his damage increases when his Strength increases, you should buff him up with Power of One. The High Threat Constructs won't even know what hit them.

On a sidenote, ask him all the questions you can and listen to his answers, but don't worry about his Lore rating if Fall-From-Grace is in your party (hers is higher than everyone else's).

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:57 pm
by Klorox
Wow, I never realized he received STR damage bonuses. I just wouldn't expect it, and never looked for it.

That bit of knowledge just made him one of the best NPC's IMHO.