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Hmm...
*joins the discussion*

It IS what one does with it. From personal experience men who are on the large side sometimes think that all they have to do is be there and you should be overjoyed.

Men who don't have that 'advantage'? spend time touching...

So, basically size doesn't really matter. (in my humble opinion, from my experience)

@Viv-I totally agree.

Vixen: TWO women agree on this? It must be fact then

ROFL

Unhappy indeed, because I don't bat for that team.

You've got me all wrong ladies, I merely posed the oft-repeated phrase. I certainly mentioned nothing of my own "stat"

'It's not the size of the wand but the skill of the magician that matters.'

Sort of like the adage, 'You have two ears and one mouth. Therefore you should listen twice as much as you talk.' Or to paraphrase, 'you have two hands and one "member", therefore you should touch twice as much as you.....' (I think you get it )

This from an 'older' man, of course. Maybe wisdom is the most important? Ladies?

I don't think age and wisdom necessarily impart sexual prowess Anatres.

Size *can be* important. If its so tiny it can't be felt... If its so large it won't fit... If its pretty big it can work magic of its own . If its just the right size but you don't know how to use it...

You could be the world's best magician, but if your wand is snapped, or the rabbits just won't pop out the hat anymore...

Gruntboy: Lol, I gave up trying to figure your 'team' out long ago

Anatres: Yes, wisdom is very important
But, I think some people are givers, some are takers... (maybe this is a basic personality thing? It's not wisdom as much as caring for others...)
At a party during college, a guy tried to convince a friend that all she needed to do was 'lay there', fortunately she wasn't drunk enough for that But, that may have influenced my opinion of certain men. If all a woman does is 'lay there', and the man 'gets his'...well it just doesn't seem as if he's doing anything for her benifit...

Thus, I've always been extra careful about what men I will even go on a first date with...

Have you noticed this thought process in men around you? I know are MANY kind, caring, giving men...but I am disturbed by some who think that as long as they're getting what they need...the woman automatically is...

I stand by my original comment. Age, experience, wisdom (the ability to understand that this 'experience' involves TWO people) are far more conducive to a MUTUALLY rewarding experience than mere size. Lovemaking is after all about more than intercourse, and intercourse encompasses much more than just sex.

Vivien. Both of us have been talking in terms of size & wisdom in relation to what the ladies get from it

For a guy, it could be the smallest weiner on the planet or the most inexperienced teenager and you could get your rocks off.

It goes without saying that I prefer it when the woman does more than "just lies there". There are plenty of women like that - they seem to think that size does count more and as long as its big enough they can just lie there and expect to be pleasured without doing anything.

Anatres: You're probably right about a lot of it. Plus, time gives so much more experience. But, there are many very caring younger men out there too

Grunt: Actually, if we're being honest, I've had friends complain about men being TOO big. It hurts then.

This topic has degenerated nicely. Bitzen will be so pleased.

Only a *very* immature man would even consider a woman just lying there to be a good thing. What fun is that? Go buy a doll or something if that is your thing...

I wasn't asking you to change your comment Anatres. I agree with you. But you can be the most caring, involving selfless person in the world and if you ain't got the right wand...

On the other hand, if its the right person I don't think size or wisdom matters - its just right

Viv: ouch! When its too tight for us guys - Mm-mmmm!!

Originally posted by Vivien:
<STRONG>Grunt: Actually, if we're being honest, I've had friends complain about you being TOO big. It hurts then.</STRONG>

She started it

I'm proud o' you girl

Much more to say just no time to say it..... later (maybe )

Waverly: Agreed! But sometimes it seems as that is what men want But, maybe it just seems that way...media portraying youth...

I personally feel 'it' is a full contact sport, like monopoly

Gruntboy: Really? Hmmm... Women DO NOT KNOW what men are feeling, so I'd never thought about it in that way.

Edit: Inappropriate content edited out

[ 05-08-2001: Message edited by: Vivien ]

Hey what was the inappropriate content? That is my *favorite* content.

Sex as full contact monopoly. Hmm, I don't see the connection. First Waverly takes ownership of the bed, then all the bedroom furnature. Next he demands you pay him in clothing for the usage of said furnature. Finally you go bankrupt and are forced into servitude while Waverly gloats...

Waverly: It depends on how you play Monopoly You also have to choose your opponents wisely. I usually choose people who are nice and easily manipulated.

Things like taking all of the hotels from the person who's winning and throwing said hotels across the room. Then one launches oneself at the winner, thus making Monopoly a full contact sport. It's the only way to play in my opinion, because I always loose every other way (come to think of it, I loose this way to, but at least it's more fun.)

Translate this to sex, and you'll see what I mean about full contact *steal his shirt and then run giggling (and being chased) around the bed* being an example

My idea of a full contact game is "naked twister"



And before the flames, no, I don't play with the marines, just me and six darling young ladies.

Grunt: Lol Actually, twister would be a fun game to play naked, thanks for the idea

@Viv: Never heard of coed naked twister before? you have led a sheltered life.