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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 6:47 am
by EMINEM
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>I have a question for you and anyone else who doesn't like Tolkien's work, well, those of you who have read the Icewind Dale Trilogy.
Do you like the parts of the IWD Trilogy involving Bruenor and Shimmergloom?</STRONG>
Hmmmm.... it' been about five years since I read "Streams of Silver," but the image of Bruenor standing atop the burning back of Shimmergloom as they both descended down into Garumn's Gorge is one that has remained in my memory. Yes, I thought it was graphic and interesting, but it failed to move me emotionally in the same way as Gandalf's "death scene" in Moria. I thought Salvatore did a poor job in developing Bruenor's character in the "Icewind Dale." Not until the "Dark Elf" trilogy did Bruenor's personality start to break through the stereotypical "gruff dwarf warrior wielding battle-axe against orc-hordes" mould. But it took the death of Wulfgar to make it happen.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 7:02 am
by EMINEM
Actually, the only time I've been moved by by Bruenor was when he accidentally showed his affection for Regis while shopping for supplies at a store in Icewind Dals. As you may or may not know, "Hotaru," he lost his left eye in "Legacy of the Drow," and priests with healing spells, though they tried, could not guarantee a 100% recovery of his vision. Lo and behold, years later, Bruenor realized he was seeing from both eyes while berating Regis for his stupidity, whereupon he suddenly let down his guard and embraced the halfling in a bear hug while people looked in with delighted smiles. Noticing their expressions, Bruenor dropped Regis and resumed his perptual scowl.
THAT's the kind of development and/or character insights absent from Salvatore's earlier novels, but I am now glad he's beginning to demonstrate in his works.
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 12:26 pm
by EMINEM
A fascinating article that attempts to explain the powers of the One Ring scientifically, and how we can forge a replica using currect technology.
[url="http://www.scifi.com/sfw/current/labnotes.html"]Ring Science[/url]
Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 7:12 pm
by Nightmare
Less than 24 hours till I see it!

I'm seeing it at 4:30 EST tomorrow after school with some friends. YES!
PS. This board needs a "wired" smilie, like someone hyper or high on caffine. No, I'm serious.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 7:23 pm
by Aleldar
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>I have a question for you and anyone else who doesn't like Tolkien's work, well, those of you who have read the Icewind Dale Trilogy.
Do you like the parts of the IWD Trilogy involving Bruenor and Shimmergloom?</STRONG>
Actually, I think that Tolken is one of the greatest writers around.
I haven't read any of the IWD stories. I have just recently started reading the Forgotten Realms books. Right now I'm reading The Floodgate "Counselors & Kings Book 2.

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 8:27 pm
by FudD
I read IWD trilogy a long arse time ago (when they first came out...like 88) and they are very good books...although i hated the DL saga so much i didn't rea any more D&D novels....
i would highly recomend (for the second time on this board) reading the Shannara series by Terry Brooks <----very very good fantasy,
how bout the old old Conan novels.....anyone read them??
btw....i wasn't so bummed on LotR (movie)...i read the book(s) first....and with all movies i keep my hopes low so that if its even halfway good i'm happy

Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2001 8:49 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by EMINEM:
<STRONG>Actually, the only time I've been moved by by Bruenor was when he accidentally showed his affection for Regis while shopping for supplies at a store in Icewind Dals. As you may or may not know, "Hotaru," he lost his left eye in "Legacy of the Drow," and priests with healing spells, though they tried, could not guarantee a 100% recovery of his vision. Lo and behold, years later, Bruenor realized he was seeing from both eyes while berating Regis for his stupidity, whereupon he suddenly let down his guard and embraced the halfling in a bear hug while people looked in with delighted smiles. Noticing their expressions, Bruenor dropped Regis and resumed his perptual scowl.
THAT's the kind of development and/or character insights absent from Salvatore's earlier novels, but I am now glad he's beginning to demonstrate in his works.</STRONG>
I haven't read Legacy of the Drow yet. I've got two of the books, but not the first one. I'm currently reading Realms of Valor, a collection of short stories by different FR authors about different FR chars, including Drizzt and Elminster. On the back cover, it says there's another one like it that's a collection of stories about villians, including Entreri. I've got too many books to read!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 8:34 am
by EMINEM
Forget books! Go out there and buy your LoTR tickets!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 10:11 am
by Georgi
Originally posted by EMINEM:
<STRONG>Forget books! Go out there and buy your LoTR tickets!

</STRONG>
Bought them weeks ago

Only 3 hours till I see it

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 10:19 am
by McBane
My tickets are for 8:00pm. Its now only 11:20am.
Man, this day is taking forever. The film critic in the Chicago Tribune gave it 4 stars.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 10:38 am
by Georgi
Originally posted by McBane:
<STRONG>My tickets are for 8:00pm. Its now only 11:20am.</STRONG>
So are mine, but that's only 2 hour 15 minutes away now
Well, nearly everyone has given it good reviews...

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 11:40 am
by Kayless
Less then 3 hours till I see it. Ah, the joy of suspense.

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 11:44 am
by McBane
Originally posted by Georgi:
So are mine, but that's only 2 hour 15 minutes away now
That is so unfair

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 4:37 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by McBane:
<STRONG>That is so unfair</STRONG>
Uh-huh... would it be unfair to tell you just how fantastic I think the movie was?

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 7:28 pm
by Nightmare
The movie was wicked!

Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2001 7:42 pm
by Kayless
Best... movie... EVER! Okay, that's a slight exaggeration (inspired by the Comic book Store guy from the Simpsons

) but LotR rocks regardless. GO SEE IT!
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2001 4:01 pm
by Georgi
At least the best movie I've seen this year

It rrrrrrrocks! (with a rolling r, as in "Morrrrrrdorrr"

)