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[QUOTE=Ravager]Pat Smith gives someone a dollar. Pat is this person's brother, but the person is not Pat's brother. How can that be?[/QUOTE]
--> She' Pat's sister...? <--

Here's one for you! The text doesn't give any information, it is simply the question - how come that the two triangles are the same, still there's a whole in the lower one if you rearrange the colored parts? (I don't have the answer ready so we have to figure it out somehow :D )
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[QUOTE=Brynn]--> She' Pat's sister...? <--

Here's one for you! The text doesn't give any information, it is simply the question - how come that the two triangles are the same, still there's a whole in the lower one if you rearrange the colored parts? (I don't have the answer ready so we have to figure it out somehow :D )[/QUOTE]

> The red triangle is bigger than the dark green one (double the size) so if the two shapes below it start at either end (like with the first triangle) there is a gap. Oh and the yellow shape starts on the light green one rather than above it. <

Glad it has that grid :p

That makes some sort of sense I hope :p . BTW, my riddle's solved. Congrats :)
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Yay I got another one. :D

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The triangles:

--> Well it still doesn't answer why the lower trinagle's territory is one square bigger than the upper one's... I strongly suspect that the longest side of the triangle is not perfectly straight, there must be an angle where the red and the green parts meet...

Also, if you add the number of sqares (trinagle parts = rectangle / 2) it's 32 for the upper one and 32,5 for the lower one, so I'm pretty sure the trick is in the longest side.
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Hmm.. I stick by my earlier guess. Doesn't look like the hypotenuse (sp?) to me.

> First take away the triangles, move the yellow shape to the left and down, so there's a gap. Then swap the original positions of the triangles and having moved the yellow shape keeps the shape a triangle. <
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--> Yup, but the problem is that the size of each part remains the same, the two big triangles looks like they are of the same size too, but still, the lower triangle is one sqare bigger! The gap is obviously there if you swap the parts as you described, but it makes the lower triangle bigger in size while it looks identical to the one above. <--
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> Okay, in the top picture, the two shapes combine to make a square in the corner of 3x5, 2x8 in the bottom pic. As the 'square' in the bottom pic is wider it compensates for the smaller triangle. The red triangle is bigger and covers the rest of the remaining area <
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--> OK I'm trying very hard to follow... :D As you say, the the sqaures that the yellow and bright green parts combine in each triangle are of different size, 2x8 and 3+5. That's the problem! Yes, you can put the red triangle above the 2x8 and fit the dark green to the 3x5 sqare but the big triangles should be the same since the perpendicular sides are the same (5 and 13) - but still it seems that the lower one is one square bigger in territory... I hope I could explain what I mean... <--
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In the original question it says the two triangles are the same, correct?

But there's obviously of different sizes, so is the clue in there somehow?

> Either I'm not explaining myself properly or I just don't get this. Haven't I explained the reason for the gap? The base for the triangle on top must match the top of the square below. So moving those shapes to accommodate the bigger triangle causes the gap. The red triangle is an enlargement (x2) of the green one. The size difference causes the gap. That's how it works... I think :D
I agree that the line isn't straight, the red triangle doesn't pass through the same point as the green one (2 up for every four across) :rolleyes: Pesky triangles :p
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[QUOTE=Ravager]In the original question it says the two triangles are the same, correct?

But there's obviously of different sizes, so is the clue in there somehow?

> Either I'm not explaining myself properly or I just don't get this. Haven't I explained the reason for the gap? The base for the triangle on top must match the top of the square below. So moving those shapes to accommodate the bigger triangle causes the gap. The red triangle is an enlargement (x2) of the green one. The size difference causes the gap. That's how it works... I think :D <[/QUOTE]

Well yeah, the two triangles look indentical...

--> I'm sure it's me who can't explain it properly :D Clearly, you can put the green part on top of the 3x5 square and the red one on top of the 2x8 square, that's OK.

The problem is that the upper (whole) triangle is made of four parts, green, yellow, red and bright green. These parts are clearly the same in the lower triangle, rearranged - and one more sqaure added! So the question is: how come that yellow+red+green+dark green is equal with yellow+red+green+dark green+white?

So the total territory of the four parts equals the territory of the upper triangle, which looks identical to the lower one but that's one square bigger. The problem is not how you create that gap, it's that how can the the two big triangles be identical when the lower one's territory is one square bigger?
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[QUOTE=Ravager]> I agree that the line isn't straight, the red triangle doesn't pass through the same point as the green one (2 up for every four across) :rolleyes: Pesky triangles :p <[/QUOTE]
--> That's it, then. The territory of the two triangles don't match because they are NOT triangles in fact! <--
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--> Okay, maybe this is the answer then. The two triangles are NOT identical. The red one isn't even an enlargement of the green one. Looka t it closely using the grid. The green triangle goes up 2 complete squares for every 4 across, the red triangle is just short of doing that. Which means it should be bigger and so, the hypotenuse isn't straight. <-- *phew* :D
-->That's it, then. The territory of the two triangles don't match because they are NOT triangles in fact!<--


> They are triangles, just not identical triangles or one enlargement of the other < I think I have a headache now :p ;)
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I second that, phew... :D
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Back to simpler riddles... :p

The following sentence is false. The preceding sentence is true. Are these sentences true or false?
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Phew, you are away a couple of days, and five more pages get filled with riddles. Well, I think I know this one: (even though the answer already got posted, didn't read it though)

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A psychologist goes to a village in Africa and decides to compare foot size to intelligence. He notes that in general, as foot size increases, so does intelligence. How can this be?[/QUOTE]
Is it because the small feet are children feet, and the big ones are adult's?

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The following sentence is false. The preceding sentence is true. Are these sentences true or false?[/QUOTE]
Sounds like a paradox to me. Or are you really expecting 'both true' or 'both false'?
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Both correct. The last riddle is a paradox.
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Hehe, riddles like that can mess with your mind...
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Did this riddle already got posted?

A box without hinges, key, or a lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid.

(please only answer if you haven't heard the riddle before)
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[QUOTE=TheAmazingOopah]Did this riddle already got posted?

A box without hinges, key, or a lid, yet golden treasure inside is hid.

(please only answer if you haven't heard the riddle before)[/QUOTE]

Aww. That's unfair. I know that from one of the games.

I'll post one too:

If you have three oranges and you take away two, how many wil you have?
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Yeah, I just think it's more fun when you only answer the riddles that are new to you - to me, it's more impressing when you get a new one and come up with the answer, than when you already know it and remember the answer... No hard feelings, I hope. When the others also know the riddle/can't come up with the answer, I will allow you as the first person to answer it :)
By the way, which game do you mean? Baldur's Gate 2?

Regarding your riddle:
Still three, since you are the one who takes (away) two oranges, plus the one you left :D
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