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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:12 am
by Noober
Haven't you read my description of Force Crush???? You miss your round even if you save. Now to use one of your points against you: "I WILLL save force crush with my force resistance". If you get to use force resistance equipment, so do I, thereby rendering your Kill useless.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:15 am
by ajdaha
Shut up
What is your character?
PS: I have a 50 percent chance of completely saving your force power as you do mine using force resistance. So it all comes down to whose lucky. Because you attack, I save fully, I attack with horror if I succeede, you're dead mate.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:17 am
by Noober
Does that mean I win

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I have three characters:
Light Side Guardian 23/WM 3 (?)
Dark Side Consular 15/Sith Lord X
Light Side Guardain 15/WM 3 (in making)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:17 am
by Dead!
I keep forgetting which comes first, plague of affliction. lol
didnt see your post either, you pointed out all the points I had. Sorry
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:22 am
by ajdaha
Sorry dead, when I see red, I tend to......look away.
But as I said earlier, it depends on 1) who attacks first, and two who is luckier.
I hope you have force resistance!.
Oh yeah, how do you work out initiative?
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:25 am
by Noober
PAGE 4!!!!
IIRC Initiative is based on DEX. (d20+DEX mod?)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:25 am
by ajdaha
Noober: you didn't exactly "win". ut you did show me that two jedi can't fight in Kotor, since some powers like for resistance are unfair. Also, here's summin for Kotor 3, Don't include powers that stop the opponent for a round, tis unfair.
Ps: when I asked for your character, I did actually ask for final stats, as in what are you planning for him to have in the end, with all of his equipment.
PS number 2: I would probuably fail that initiative check:
(I'm re-posting this here):
Here we go:
(I'm gonna list everything in stats not modifiers)
Starting Stats:
8 Str
9 Dex
15 Con
8 Int
18 Wis
13 cha
Final stats (without equipment, or force powers)
10 Str (8 +2 from kreia after breaking Hanharr)
9 Dex
18 Con (15+3 from Kreia, Hanharr and HK)
8 Int
39 Wis (18+12 attribute bonuses +6 lightside master jedi +3 from T3, Hk and Hanharr)
13 cha
Equipment
Mental D-Package
wisdom +3
charisma +3
inteligence +3
Force Focusing Visor
wisdom +4
charisma +1
regeneration F.P : +2
Ossus Keeper Robe
defence +1
charisma +2
inteligence +4
wisdom +4
Jal Shey Meditation Gloves
wisdom +2
dexterity +2
Skill - awareness : +2
Nomi's Armband
+1 vs D.S
Aj-daha's Armband
constitution +1
Jal Shey Mentor Belt
wisdom: +2
Force Resist +20
Lightsabers, 2:
saber I
type normal
color silver
crystal I Kasha
crystal II Kaiburr
saber I
type short
color veridian
crystal I My crystal (lightside, level 9)
crystal II Kaiburr
All equipment gives me:
Str 10+5=15
Dex 9+8=17
Con 18+7=25
Int 8+4=12
Wis 39+30=69
Cha 13+6 =19
(all, except inteligence are important so all except inteligence are odd numbers to prepare for force valour)
PS: I went evil and got hanharr and his upgrades, and then went good.
So, you like?
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:28 am
by Dead!
Why do you look away when you see red?
So if I got a very high dex, I would always g first?
How did u figure that out noober? in the combat messages?
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:29 am
by Noober

I didn't win? It doesn't really matter though since KOTOR is a single player game...If you could play online though, I expect it would be similar to NWN's PvP.
I'll have to give you my character's final stats another day since it would be too time-consuming.
EDIT: The initiative formula I know from Dungeons and Dragons (the d20 rules are what the game is based on). d20 mean a 20 sided die, so unless you had 38 more dex then your opponent, you won't always go first.
@ajdaha: So you are a fellow power-gamer? Nice to meet you

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:31 am
by ajdaha
No, its just D&D rules, right?
I knew I shouldn't have mentioned initiative, I'll probuably always go last.
PS: I was jocking about red, I don't have any problems with it other than the association of blood.
Oh yeah, you guys should post your character sheets if you have them.
PLus, what is your standard party, me I go with bao-Dur guardian (6/44), Handmaiden guardian (6/44).
I haven't actually got them to that level, but that is my plan.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:32 am
by Dead!
lol
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:33 am
by ajdaha
Nober: Yeah, I thought it would be.
but Dead, what's so funny?
(oh, wait, you're laughing with me.....righttttt)
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:36 am
by Dead!
My party consists of:
Atton - Sentinel - Ranged, Twin blasters with 44 attack each. Can't remember the level, something like 29.
Visas - Sentinel - Lightsabres, Dual wielding with best upgrades, cant remember what they r. lol.
I have started a new game and have just left telos and only just got visas so she is not up and running yet.
I'll post them when I get to my ultimate group
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:37 am
by Dead!
yeah, at the blood thing
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:38 am
by Noober
Well, my newest character will consist of just me. I will use no equipment but a nice powered armour (no lightsaber) and Energy damage reducting equipment (do percentages stack?). Hopefullly there will be more of a challenge.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:39 am
by ajdaha
Oh.
Is there any distinct advantade that guardians have in combat over the other (non-prestige) classes?
Edit: Noober, I bet my guy can beat your new guy! Hhehehe, guys I'm gonna go play some Kotor and achieve my perfect character.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:39 am
by Dead!
No equipment? That is mad!
Equipment is what makes it fun.
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:40 am
by Dead!
I think for guardians it is just more feats, but there may be a special combat feat only they get, I know there are for WM and Maruders
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:41 am
by ajdaha
no base damage increases heh?
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2005 5:41 am
by Noober
Guardians have more feats, Force Jump (IMHO better than Enlightenment even!!!) and more Vitality.
Damn this feels like IM.
EDIT: Actually I don't think the game will be much more of a challenge, because if I get enough Energy reduction/percentage absorbtion equipment, I can essentialy render myself immune to Blaster Bolts and Lightsabers.