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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "default" in KOTOR II sets Revan to female (in the conversation with Atton). So it shouldn't be assumed that if for some reason Revan's gender had to be determined, it would be male. Also, for someone who says the Bastila romance works much better than the Carth romance, it is probably very difficult to give an unbiased opinion in this matter. I think that the Bastila romance, with two Jedi flirting with each other, seems forced and sleazy. The Carth romance only involves one Jedi (Bastila has no excuse, whereas Carth does), and it has more time as well as important developments on which to build. It seems more natural and more integrated into the plot than the Bastila romance side quest. I will say again that my opinion is biased because I am female, not genderless, though I will admit that the romances in BG2 are better for male characters (oooh, choices!) than female ones.

As for the feasibility of a powerful Jedi being a woman, we all know that a Jedi's strength comes from the Force, not from bulging muscles. If a female Jedi is really powerful in the Force, there is no reason that she should not be able to rise to the level of power that Revan does, especially in an advanced society like in KotOR (recent history seems to suggest that as societies advance, women become more socially equal, imo). Saying history shows that women simply don't gain the level of power that men do doesn't mean that Revan couldn't be a woman. Man's physical strength (probably among other things) has long given him an edge over woman to hold power, granting him a higher social status, more political weight, and a vastly greater opportunity to be in a ruling position. However, in a society where women are probably more socially equal than in societies in world history, and when you're talking about Jedi, for whom physical strength matters less than ability with the Force, this edge is eliminated. And the suggestion that if Revan is a woman, she would have to have been in a romantic relationship with Malak is just weird. I think the Mandalorian War/early Sith War Revan would have been a no-nonsense, no-reason-(or time)-to-even-think-about-romances kind of woman.

*Ahem* Relating this back to the shock of discovering you're Revan, I think because of stereotypes, the shock of Revan's identity is enhanced by being a female character, if all along you assumed Revan would have to be a male.

I've started playing KotOR II and have just found the Harbinger's briefing room logs. WAAH.

I miss Revan and the old team. Revan was amazing.

And shame on Atton for saying Revan is an evil homicidal person. He should be ashamed of himself. Revan's great.


And, BTW, are we back on the legendary female vs. male Sith Lord/Dame? Still, I have to admit I love those. *tries to peel eyes away from screen*

And furthermore, I also think the shock of discovering you're actually Revan is stronger if your character is female. Although the discovery was spoiled for me by gibbering idiots I am forced to peacefully coexist with...

Atton would only know Revan by reputation, one which would be presumably worse considering Revan was a Sith (either before capture or before and after).

And furthermore, I also think the shock of discovering you're actually Revan is stronger if your character is female.

I suppose that's possible, but were there ever any really stong hints that Revan was male? Or was it just an assumption on the part of the player?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the "default" in KOTOR II sets Revan to female (in the conversation with Atton). So it shouldn't be assumed that if for some reason Revan's gender had to be determined, it would be male.

I think the reason was Atton would be 'interested' in the idea of Revan being female. But then there are a lot of these plot devices in the beginning of KOTOR II- e.g. was Revan light/darkside, what colour lightsaber, male/female.

Likewise, I kinda had a hunch of what was going on after Malak said that, but it didn't really hit me until the cut scene showed Revan taking off his mask.

Ditto. It reflects well on the story writers

I think the reason was Atton would be 'interested' in the idea of Revan being female. But then there are a lot of these plot devices in the beginning of KOTOR II- e.g. was Revan light/darkside, what colour lightsaber, male/female.

Many times in the game, I was surprised by the amount of times my female character was referred to as a male... (KotOR II)

And there seems to be many plots involving a more male Revan would be more useful... however, in the first one, they made sure that it could go either way.

This is not so good in the second game... I was surprised how many glitches appeared calling me male...

[QUOTE=Suicide Girl]And shame on Atton for saying Revan is a schizophrenical homicidal bi*ch. [/QUOTE]

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