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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 8:35 pm
by Aegis
Originally posted by VonDondu
I realize that. My previous post was not directed specifically at you (although you may certainly take it as a counterpoint to your own post, if you wish). I had a couple of things in mind. First of all, I was thinking about the email that went around a few weeks after the attacks that purported to show "the design for the new WTC": five towers just like the original two arranged like fingers, with the middle one sticking up. Ha, ha. Second of all, I was thinking about the angry, ignorant rednecks I have to listen to everyday who really believe that we should nuke the rest of the world. There's nothing funny about that, and someone really needs to point out the alternative.
Ok. I didn't think you were directing any ill will my way. Never saw that particular e-mail. I was hoping I was being clever :D

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 10:44 pm
by VonDondu
Aegis, here's a link to "The New Design for the World Trade Center". I have no idea who deserves the credit for thinking of it first; it seems to have been copied, forwarded, and repeated quite a bit. Unfortunately, you were not the first. :( But if it's any consolation to you, plenty of people found it amusing. Enjoy. :)

Perhaps I should have mentioned that I was simply adding to the line of thought that Fable, HighLordDave, you, Gorgan, etc. were following: what should we do with the site, and what sort of message should we convey? I was actually responding to a couple of the points that Gorgan made, with which I partially agree and partially disagree.

Gorgan states that we should not build anything but a memorial on the WTC site. I respect that opinion, so rather than quoting his (or her) message and highlighting my disagreement, I simply added my own thoughts to the message thread. But I would like to point out that I agree with something else that Gorgan said: "To be honest with you I think we need to re-evaluate the way we portray ourselves... Maybe we should tone down all of the things we do and start thinking more about how we portray ourselves." Personally, I believe that we can send the message "We are strong" without also sending the message "And the rest of you are nothing", but Gorgan is correct in pointing out that we should be very careful not to send the wrong message. It's a very good point.

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2003 11:40 pm
by Aegis
Personally, I believe that we can send the message "We are strong" without also sending the message "And the rest of you are nothing", but Gorgan is correct in pointing out that we should be very careful not to send the wrong message
Wow. Thats a really good point, and I've been in a lot of discussions with My Yankee cousins to the south. To be quite honest, this one really through me off my train of thought, never havening expected to here an American say that, especially after 9/11 (sorry for my stereotyping, but it's a sad fact :( ). I agree whole-heartily, that that is the best method. I'll have to re-read Gorgan's post, to see what exactly he has in mind (if he mentioned it). But, this goes right along the lines of what I was thinking about the nice, simple memorial. That seems to be the popular idea here in Ontario (not sure 'bout those messed BC folk out west @DW ;) ). The way it should be decided (the memorial aspect of the reconstruction) should be by the familes of the victims of the the event. While it should be something that is astehically pleasing, it should also be something that isn't so grandoise(sp) in design that it's only acheivement is flaunting America's economic might. Something like would over-shadow the whole purpose to it being in existence.

Simplicity is the best method, in this case. Plain and simple.

EDIT: I was mistaken, I have seen that picture before. Must've pulled it up without realizing it. Yet again: Damn, thought I was being clever... :rolleyes: :cool: