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Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:15 pm
by RandomThug
I gotcha

I got one to top all others. I work with a few cool people, one o them is a man who was once the president of my city's NRA sect. He came into work one day, frustrated and bitter about his computer having problems... his solution is one I wish I could have done before... he handed us (us being the IT department) his hard drive from home, with a 40 calibre shell planted in it. He said he got frustrated tore it out threw it on the ground and WHAM. Just let one loose.... its still here...

thug

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:18 pm
by Mr Sleep
@Thug LMAO :D :D

We never get funny things like that, just stupid things. For instance we had one person who had 7 dial up accounts one AOL and another compuserve and she wondered why it didn't work :rolleyes:

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:22 pm
by RandomThug
Usual

Oh I get that every day. Stuff like "I cant open outlook" I go check the task manager and see how they just sat thier clicking it over and over to where thiers like 20 outlook.exe in taskmanager.. while they are running twelve other programs. I would love to explain to them but.... well they hurt my brain.

Anyhow... back to work

thug

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:31 pm
by Yshania
Re: Re: Dedicated to RandomThug
Originally posted by Silur


I can tell you, those little fans pull quite a punch. It hurts almost as bad as putting your finger on the CPU (or chipset for that matter) to see if its hot...
I have a chipset one coming - patience is a virtue :D

@Sleepy and Thug - LOL! :D

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:32 pm
by Mr Sleep
Hmm lets think of some others...

Someone deleted the System folder, their excuse, "Well i didn't put it there" :eek:

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:33 pm
by Gwalchmai
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
LOL :D It's just entropy at work, right? ;)
Right. All good things must come to an end.... ;)

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 3:35 pm
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by Gwalchmai
Right. All good things must come to an end.... ;)
How is the new PC going Gwally, no hiccups yet? :)

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:18 pm
by Kameleon
Originally posted by Weasel
Who would think changing a video card could lead to such a disaster. :D
Me!!!
My story, which will probably be in the same format as Weasel's since they are so strangely similar...

My hard disk was fried. Kaput, yes? However, I didn't know this at the time - I thought it was the PSU that was causing my computer to not turn on. So I bought a new PSU. Didn't work. Obviously now you would pull out all the power leads one by one to see which bit was pulling so much power that the computer couldn't turn on. Did I? Did I hell.

Bought a new motherboard, CPU, and memory. (So obviously the next step :rolleyes: ) Installed them. Still didn't work. Found out that instead of unplugging all the power leads in the previous step, seeing as I had identified the problem as being a power problem, I had instead only pulled out all the IDE cables, and was then hugely surprised that it still didn't work.

Finally I figured out that it was the hard drive that was faulty, but only after getting the help of a friend's father. Tried new hard disk, and the computer still wouldn't work. But progress! Beeps! Unfortunately, the kind which signals a problem with the graphics card. Graphics card? But that was working fine, and surely the HDD and GFX card wouldn't fail simultaneously, would they?

This particular graphics card was a Geforce 2 MX, which I had bought about 6 months previous to the incident, to replace my Riva TNT. So I tried the TNT in the board. Same thing happened - beeps. My conclusion? It must have been a problem with the AGP slot on the board, the brand new one I'd just bought and had never used. To check this, I decided to...oh no...bring the card over to a friend's house. Now remember children, the first law of computers - if you ever are asked by a friend if they can "try out" a "troublesome" piece of hardware on your fully functioning computer, run. Run like the wind.

So I merrily brought my GF2MX to this friend's house, totally oblivious to the fate that would soon befall me. We opened up his computer and I replaced the TNT2 that he had had since he bought the computer, and had worked perfectly ever since, with my "troublesome" Geforce 2. Pushed the power button. Nothing happened. I then switched the PSU on ( :rolleyes: ) and tried again.

Still nothing. At this point I'm thinking "could it be the graphics card? And somehow, the other one that has lain in a static bag for 6 months? Oh well, let's just get his computer back together and I can go from there." Here should commence the sarcastic laughter.

I replaced the TNT2, made sure that the PSU was on this time (to decrease the odds of a fatal heart attack) and turned the computer on. Heart attack anyway. The dreaded beeps came: 8 of them. Somehow, between taking out this card and replacing it less than 15 minutes later, it had broken. Or something. I now had a new theory.

That's right, it was all the Geforce 2's fault! Somehow it had been taken over by the forces of Evil, or bitten by a radioactive spider, and had become: "The AGP slot-destroying Geforce Scum Of The Earth". Oh dearie me. Next stop? Creative, of course, to try and sell this really quite ridiculous idea to them, and get them to replace the card, my motherboard, and my friend's motherboard. Can you guess how many figurative fingers they held up to me?

Well, they seemed dubious at best, and they wanted a report from an independent engineer. He will henceforth be known only as "My Best Buddy" :D . So we gave him all three graphics cards, and both computers, and let him do his stuff. At this point My Best Buddy was probably feeling much like RandomThug, i.e. like throwing himself bodily off the closest high building, but he did his job. His conclusion? This is so much like a murder mystery, in that the culprit is the one you least expect...

The only thing that was faulty at all...was the TNT2. Both of my cards were fine, both of our computers were fine. Only my friend's card was broken, a seemingly innocent victim of this lengthy (and it sure has been lengthy) comedy of errors. I also found out what I was doing wrong. The old AGP 1.0 slots were really easy to get a card into, just like PCI slots. You push them, and they go "chunk" and are in. And they work. AGP 2.0 slots, however, seem to have a different outlook on life. They seem to enjoy tearing people's live apart. You push them in. They go "chunk". But they don't work yet. Oh no. For you have to push them in still further, until it seems as if your motherboard is actually going to crack down the middle. Just to test your faith, you see. Then, and only then, when like Indiana Jones you have taken he step off the cliff that seems senseless, do you hear another, louder, more violent, "KERR-CHRUNK".

You see, if at the very beginning I had just pushed my Geforce 2 that little further into the motherboard, this wouldn't have happened. But of course I didn't know this. To this day I have no idea how the TNT2 managed to get broken. I suppose I've learnt... :D

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If you've read this far, then congratulations! You've just wasted 5 minutes of your life. If you've skipped over all that rambling to here, double congratulations! Read the last paragraph and you won't have really missed anything, and you get the added bonus of laughing at those people who've wasted their time. :p

Posted: Wed Jun 26, 2002 4:50 pm
by Gwalchmai
Originally posted by Mr Sleep
How is the new PC going Gwally, no hiccups yet? :)
Its quite nice, actually. I had an interesting problem with the soundblaster card - downloaded the new drivers and everything, but the darn EAX wouldn't turn off on most programs - BG2, Quicken, my own recorded voice. Very annoying. So I messed with the settings, but no dice. Then had a thought: how does it sound on other speakers? So I swapped out with the old speakers, and Lo! Of course, the old speakers are beige, and the new computer is black, so I just HAD to go out and buy brand new, high-quality black speakers!

Lots of new toys to play with as well. Voice recognition? Cool! :D :cool:

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 7:21 am
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by Gwalchmai
Its quite nice, actually. I had an interesting problem with the soundblaster card - downloaded the new drivers and everything, but the darn EAX wouldn't turn off on most programs - BG2, Quicken, my own recorded voice. Very annoying. So I messed with the settings, but no dice. Then had a thought: how does it sound on other speakers? So I swapped out with the old speakers, and Lo! Of course, the old speakers are beige, and the new computer is black, so I just HAD to go out and buy brand new, high-quality black speakers!
Doesn't one have to change the environmental audio or something? :) LOL :D Any excuse for some new equipment, eh? What speakers did you get?
Lots of new toys to play with as well. Voice recognition? Cool! :D :cool:
I have that in work...takes ages to program it all though

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:53 pm
by Yshania
@Kam - been there done that with an AGP slot - I am just not manly enough :D but I realised the error of my ways before destroying anything ;)

10. Your trusty flat-head screwdriver now comes into play once more as we approach the heart of the system - the processor. With it's cooling fan disabled, you can remove it and the heatsink by detaching the clips that fix it to the processor socket. However, it is usually quicker to simply lever it off using a flat-head screwdriver. Similarly, getting the processor out of its socket is simply a matter of lifting the socket lever but we've seen it done just as successfully with a bit of brute force and ignorance. Now examine the processor closely. See the fine array of tiny pins on its underside? Notice how you bent them when you levered it free. If they snap off when you try to bend them back into position don't worry, there are plenty more.

Damage Potential:

PC: Brain damage
You: Lighter wallet

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 1:59 pm
by Yshania
11. Take a look at the PC power supply and you'll see a sticker with a list of multilingual warnings along the lines of 'do not remove cover' and 'no user serviceable parts inside'. Just because you can't replace a blown component it doesn't mean you shouldn't have a poke around. As an added bonus, the capacitors inside pack quite an electrical punch. If you're still conscious and the power supply has yet to disintegrate, fit it back to the PC and slide the voltage selector from 240V to 110V. Switch on and stand well back.

Damage Potential:

PC: Straight to the tip
You: Straight to accident and emergency

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:05 pm
by Yshania
12. Adding and removing hardware from your PC is a chore at the best of times but at least 'plug and play' means you don't have to switch everything off before embarking on an upgrade. So if you can add a new webcam or printer so easily, why not try it with something else? New disk drives are a breeze to fit without powering down, but the worst thing that will happen is that the drive will fail. Remove an expansion card, however, ideally with some waggling from side to side, and you can fry both it and the motherboard.

Damage Potential:

PC: Shocking
You: More shocking

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:06 pm
by Kameleon
LMAO...these are brilliant. Where did you get them?

On a related note regarding stickers, a friend's brother ordered a new computer on the internet, and while he was there, he ordered some more memory to go in it from the same people. When the computer arrived, he expected the memory to be already fitted. Instead it came in an anti-static bag. And the computer's case had a "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" sticker slapped across the back so that you would have to break it to open the case, and insert the memory. A dilemma? Not really :D

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:09 pm
by Yshania
13. A cool PC is a happy PC but the steel sheath that is a typical case isn't particularly conducive to keeping temperatures down. So why not leave the case off? With the innards exposed for all to see, fresh air can circulate freely around the components, keeping them wonderfully cool. If, over time, you find that your computer attracts airborne dust and develops a furry coating likely to attract the attentions of PETA, just give it a thorough going over with the vacuum cleaner nozzle.

Damage Potential:

PC: Slow but certain
You: Asthma

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:11 pm
by Yshania
Originally posted by Kameleon
LMAO...these are brilliant. Where did you get them?

On a related note regarding stickers, a friend's brother ordered a new computer on the internet, and while he was there, he ordered some more memory to go in it from the same people. When the computer arrived, he expected the memory to be already fitted. Instead it came in an anti-static bag. And the computer's case had a "WARRANTY VOID IF REMOVED" sticker slapped across the back so that you would have to break it to open the case, and insert the memory. A dilemma? Not really :D
From the magazine Computeractive as referenced in my first post ;)

LOL! :D are you surprised? :D you could always cut open the front of the bag - thus not disturbing the sticker....

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:16 pm
by Yshania
The moral of this tale, girls and boys...

1. Keep magnets away from your computer
2. Keep your PC away from heat sources
3. Switch off during thunderstorms and don't overload mains sockets
4. Keep liquids away from your computer
5. Disconnect cables carefully
6. Use the correct tools for the job
7. Cases should come off easily
8. Take anti-static precautions before opening a PC case
9. Keep fingers away from spinning fans
10. Remove components carefully, using the appropriate means
11. Never ever open the power supply unit
12. Power down before upgrading
13. Don't operate your PC with cases off.


And there you have it ;)

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:19 pm
by Kameleon
Originally posted by Yshania
From the magazine Computeractive as referenced in my first post ;)
Aha, I forgot about that :rolleyes: :D

I know someone who keeps his PC tower in a fridge by his desk with the wires trailing out...it's great for overclocking, apparently :D

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:23 pm
by Yshania
Originally posted by Kameleon


Aha, I forgot about that :rolleyes: :D

I know someone who keeps his PC tower in a fridge by his desk with the wires trailing out...it's great for overclocking, apparently :D
;) sorry for the distraction then :D As much as I would like to claim credit - I am too honest a person...

LOL! :D I wouldn't know about the efforts of cooling an overclocked machine - I am an Athlon fan ;)

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2002 2:28 pm
by Kameleon
Originally posted by Yshania
I am an Athlon fan ;)
Don't you mean you have an Athlon fan?? :D

Athlons can be overclocked too you know - it just takes industrial cooling to get them not to melt into your board :p