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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:57 am
by Aegis
Saw the movie last night, and I must say, it was... Impressive, to say the least. I feel most of Hayden's acting, though, was a bit forced, and choppy at times, but he really did an excellant job at bringing out the conflicting nature of his position in with Jedi, and supposedly being the one to bring balance t the force.

Also, in terms of easter eggs, when Yoda was sitting alone, and was sensing Anakin's feelings, anyone catch the respirator sound at the end? :)

And the best line was Samuel's when the Jedi appeared on the planet for that last battle. When he's holding the sword up to Jango's throat, and turns to Dooku and says "This party's over".

Oh yeah, we also gave Yoda a standing ovation! :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 8:04 am
by Georgi
Originally posted by Aegis
Oh yeah, we also gave Yoda a standing ovation!
The best bit of that scene is when he's done fighting, and he limps away with his walking stick... :D It got more laughter than applause though ;)

Although there was a big cheer when the opening titles began to roll :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 8:51 am
by Aegis
Yeah, it was neat to see those words appear on the big screen again....

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 11:46 am
by Morlock
I actualy went to see it again today. I was board, and I really wanted to clarify some things for myself.

Spoiler (in response to Georgi's):

One thing that I did remeber today was that Obi Wan was told that Jango had a clone of himself made, so I'm wandering if the clone died, and Jango is gonna comeback in E3. One reason that I thought of this is that today I didn't notice any body parts after Jango's head was cut off- and purposly or not, the helmet was empty.

Also, in one of the only times that music actualy made me laugh, In the scene when they kiss for the first time, the music starts and gets higher, and reaches its climax, then it's cut off when the kiss ends. The music, not the scene itself is what made me laugh.

Also, I believe that It's more the music than the words that get people cheering. I have only gone thru it twice- and it is one of the most exciting movie moment for me ever. The first time I saw it in E1, I was actualy shaking from excitment of hearing the theme for the first time in this movie, in the movie theater. Even though I saw TPM 3 times in the theater, the first time is the only one that stuck.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:06 pm
by HighLordDave
@Morlock:
Boba Fett is Jango Fett's clone. Remember that not only did he want a clone made, but he wanted it made without any of the genetic modifications and without the accelerated growth of the rest of the clone army. The Kamino started the cloning process 10 years previous (around the time of TPM), which would make Boba about the same age, as he appeared in the film.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 1:59 pm
by Locke Da'averan
when the words came and started rolling down, i got the shivers of excitement run down my back, and i wasn't disappointed.

i thought hayden was pretty good, well there were some not so good parts too...

the movie was good, but one thing that did bother me the most was that the plot was not carried forward almost at all the clone war did began and ani and padme fall in love but that's it, in EP3 padme dies(prolly) anakin turns, luke and leia are hidden, deathstar begins to close opening day, jedi's die, palpatine takes over the galaxy, yoda moves to a little bit more less classy house in the swamps

now some less friendly critic:
this is what will propably make people knock on my door with baseball bats but here it goes: i thought the scene where yoda fought with dooku with lightsabers as humorous at best.
all credit to the little green guy, but the whole fight thing was ridiculous looking, and yoda didn't even kick his arse, and why did he have to concentrate so damn long to prevent the pillar from smashing obi and ani under...? "because the kuudo what's his name had to get away, but still... :mad:

when the jedi's were fighting against the army of droids, there was one scene where jedi's were cut down like grass, if they indeed are so good and have so good reflexes how is it that a single blaster shot hits them in the back??? i always thought that when they retreat they walk backwards and reflect the shots back to the droids, but no, these "jedi's" started running and turned their backs to the droids, very wise indeed...

this has propably been talked through in TPM thread somewhere ages ago, but i still can't believe how in H*LL darth sidious, being almost allmighty can hide his true identity in front of yoda without even slightest effort. if yoda can sense that anakin is pi$$ed in some planet gazillion light years away, why can't he pick up the itty bitty evil coming from palpatine??? :rolleyes: just gotta know. yes they said the dark side is covering their senses and their touch to the force is weakening, but c'mon guy standing 1 feet from yoda can't be left unnoticed, if they can pick up infants to notice who has the ability to control the force to recruit new jedi's.

now that sidious has a pretty kick a$$ padawan it makes you wonder what kind of a pathetic excuse was darth maul?? sure he was cool with his staff thingy, but he died pretty easily considering what kind of a whooping the kuudo guy gave to obi and anakin... one thing that was a disappointment was the part were anaking fought with two light sabers, i saw trailers and there was that scene, i thought it would last longer than 5 secs :(

@Aegis i noticed the respirator sound when yoda was scanning anakin, i thought i was hearing things though, thanks for proving i'm not crazy, yet :D

i did like the movie much much much more than TPM and as so many other it does feel like a joke now,

when the third one comes out, i'm gonna buy it and then watch every single movie without breaks, that's about 15 hours of star wars :cool: :D ;)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 6:35 pm
by Kayless
Originally posted by Georgi
@Kayless IMO Amidala didn't look half shocked enough when Anakin was telling her how he slaughtered all those people...
Her initial expression isn’t the problem, it’s the fact that they never really followed up on it. Personally I’d be a bit more concerned if someone just told me they wiped out a whole village, but Padme gets over it real quick.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 6:52 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by Morlock
Also, I believe that It's more the music than the words that get people cheering.
I thought that it would be, but it wasn't, it was the words...
Posted by Kayless:
Her initial expression isn’t the problem, it’s the fact that they never really followed up on it. Personally I’d be a bit more concerned if someone just told me they wiped out a whole village, but Padme gets over it real quick.
Yeah, what I should have said was she didn't act half shocked enough - either initially or what followed, IMO ;)

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 6:54 pm
by HighLordDave
The Jedi vs. the droid army scene bothered me a little bit from the point of a military tactician. If I were going to rescue someone (as Mace Windu was there to rescue Kenobi), then my plan would be as follows:

1) Insert into target area
2) Secure mission objective (Kenobi)
3) Egress through pre-planned extraction route(s)

They got the first two parts right, sneaking onto the Geonoshan planet, but instead of fighting their way out of the arena and back to their ships, the Jedi stayed and fought (and many died). Jedi are good, and against droids they should have cleaned up. However, even a Jedi Master can't fight forever and so the mission commander (Mace Windu) should have opted for a strike-and-fade operation rather than a duke-it-out-with-the-droids style. They knew that they were going to be heavily outnumbered and they knew that Count Dooku was manufacturing a droid army in conjuction with the Trade Federation (Kenobi told them so in his communique). So why stick around after rescuing Kenobi, Anakine and Padme?

SPOILER ALERT!!!

I stayed spoiler free for TPM and was horribly disappointed, so while I didn't actively seek out stuff on AOTC I didn't go hunting either. I really enjoyed being surprised when Mace Windu decapitated Jango Fett and Anakin lost his arm to Darth Tyrannis. I have read a lot of "spoiled" Star Wars fans bemoaning how they wished they could have been ignorant of those two plot twists. Of course, I have no sympathy because it wasn't that hard to ignore all of the plot information available through official, unofficial and bootleg sources.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:06 pm
by Kayless
Originally posted by Georgi
Yeah, what I should have said was she didn't act half shocked enough - either initially or what followed, IMO ;)
Padme is such an enabler. Her intentions may be good, but she’s really not a good influence on the poor boy. Her callous indifference to the tragedy of the Sand People is just more proof of her poor character. Image

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:10 pm
by Georgi
Possible spoiler, but only if you're deaf, dumb and blind...

@HLD but then again, at least Mace Windu has a purple lightsabre :D

I wouldn't really class those as "plot twists". All of the stuff you'd have thought might be a twist is obvious - like they tried to put a little doubt on whether Dooku was a real bad guy or not, but everyone already knows that he is (and let's face it, Christopher Lee playing him doesn't leave much room for doubt - BTW, did anyone else think there were some interesting parallels between Dooku and Saruman? ;) )...

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:11 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by Kayless
Padme is such an enabler. Her intentions may be good, but she’s really not a good influence on the poor boy. Her callous indifference to the tragedy of the Sand People is just more proof of her poor character.
LOL :D Well, she isn't queen anymore, she doesn't have to pretend to care about the suffering of the little people ;) :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:17 pm
by Aegis
Found your future, eh Georgi? :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 7:22 pm
by Georgi
Originally posted by Aegis
Found your future, eh Georgi?
I heard you were the queen around here... :p :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 8:17 pm
by Aegis
Originally posted by Georgi


I heard you were the queen around here... :p :D
Only the misquided believe that. :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 9:51 pm
by dragon wench
I went to see the movie this afternoon on a nice, big Silver City screen.... I have to say that it was pretty awesome......The climactic battle was spectacular, and as others have said, Yoda was great.

I do agree that Hayden could have better, especially in the "romance" dialogues.... I am wondering though if he was also acting the part to some degree. I mean, he is still, in many regards, a gawky, inexperienced kid.....and here he is reunited with the woman whom he has thought about for many years..... At least a certain level of awkwardness would be reasonable.....
But yes, his acting could have had just a bit more flair and spontaneity to it.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:06 pm
by Aegis
I was thinking the same thing, but it seemed a little too forced at times (the picnic scene).

Just imagine what this is gonna do for his career, though. Starting off with Star Wars is enough to get anyone a dozen scripts handed to him.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:29 pm
by Ode to a Grasshopper
Apart from that Jake Lloyd kid, that is... :D

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:35 pm
by josh
Originally posted by Aegis
Just imagine what this is gonna do for his career, though. Starting off with Star Wars is enough to get anyone a dozen scripts handed to him.
Er, I don't think so. Star Wars aren't the kinds of movies that let actors show their talents.

Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 10:38 pm
by Tamerlane
He'd make a great villian with his collection of evil stares and frowns.

Oh wait, he already is a villian. Can't get any greater then Vader. :rolleyes: :o :D