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Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 8:36 am
by Gruntboy
That twisting obviously made her halo fall off :p

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 8:59 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>That twisting obviously made her halo fall off :p </STRONG>
A quick look thru the Weasel's Perfect Answers book says....use duct tape next time. :D

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 9:05 am
by Gruntboy
You want me to use duct tape on sailor saturn? Well, okay, if you insist. I believe she prefers silk rope though.


:D ;)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 9:14 am
by Weasel
Originally posted by Gruntboy:
<STRONG>You want me to use duct tape on sailor saturn? Well, okay, if you insist. I believe she prefers silk rope though.


:D ;) </STRONG>
I don't know if I want to hear this tale... :o

(PM me the details) :D :D

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 9:20 am
by Gruntboy
LOL :)

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:20 am
by Shadow Sandrock
Hey lemme see this halo..

*sees price tag, thinks for a moment...*

Well, it's probably authentic...

*hands it back to Sailor Saturn, compeletely ignorant of the "Ban-Dai" written on the side of it*

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 9:55 pm
by leedogg
I am a lover, not a fighter! :rolleyes:

Can't we all get along??!! :D :D

good to see weasel and grunty around again. ;)

This has been a SPAM AND RUN by Leedogg.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:32 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>Hey lemme see this halo..

*sees price tag, thinks for a moment...*

Well, it's probably authentic...

*hands it back to Sailor Saturn, compeletely ignorant of the "Ban-Dai" written on the side of it*</STRONG>
*looks at the halo Sandy handed her* Sorry, hun, but this is your halo. :p Now, why don't you go see if Wing will let you borrow her basting rifle and start cooking something for Trowa so he doesn't have to eat that stuff Catherine calls soup. ;) :p :D

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 10:38 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>lol! but with all this twisting and turning how do you stay focused? :D :p </STRONG>
*shrugs* I just do. :)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:45 am
by Tom
@ CE yes i think i agree take stalin out.

What mediates against hitler is that he went mad and lost the war that could have been won by a sane man. I mean he did declare war on both russia and the usa.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 2:55 pm
by VoodooDali
I say go back in time and kill Galileo and Copernicus. The earth is round? Doesn't look like it to me! I'm ready to join the Flat Earth Society! Check out their webpage: [url="http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm"]http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm[/url]

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:06 pm
by Mr Sleep
Originally posted by VoodooDali:
<STRONG>I say go back in time and kill Galileo and Copernicus. The earth is round? Doesn't look like it to me! I'm ready to join the Flat Earth Society! Check out their webpage: [url="http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm"]http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/fe-scidi.htm[/url]</STRONG>
I actually agree to a degree with the notion that because i haven't seen it, i do not know it to be true. I have been shown pictures that the world is spherical, but i have not seen it with my own eyes. So i can not say for certain that it is so.

This of course can come down to common sense ;)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 3:41 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Mr Sleep:
<STRONG>I actually agree to a degree with the notion that because i haven't seen it, i do not know it to be true. I have been shown pictures that the world is spherical, but i have not seen it with my own eyes. So i can not say for certain that it is so.</STRONG>
I've seen it with my own eyes. The Earth is shaped like an inverted our glass who's straight sides have been warped into a convex curve. ;) :D

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 4:00 pm
by Weasel
Originally posted by Mr Sleep:
<STRONG>I actually agree to a degree with the notion that because i haven't seen it, i do not know it to be true. I have been shown pictures that the world is spherical, but i have not seen it with my own eyes. So i can not say for certain that it is so.

This of course can come down to common sense ;) </STRONG>

I'm on a boat sailing straight ahead....an island begins to rise in the distance.

Did the island start to rise out of the water as I approached, or was the curve of the earth hiding it? :D

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:04 pm
by fable
Originally posted by VoodooDali:
<STRONG>I say go back in time and kill Galileo and Copernicus. The earth is round? Doesn't look like it to me</STRONG>
Copernicus and Galileo had nothing to do with the shape of the earth. It's shape was actually understood to be round in academic circles back in the 13th century, only nobody could prove it to have commercial advantages. Typical that they credited the person who gave others wealth off the fact with the actual invention of the idea. :D

Copernicus postulated, in a very circuitous way, that some planets might just revolve around other planets, rather than around the earth, which was the center of the system. This was actually a revival of the so-called Alexandrian theory, a kind of halfway house between the Ptolemaic universe and a solar system.

Galileo's main discoveries had to do with the physics of force and velocity. His main effect was the disastrous one he had on the relationship of the RCC with scientists. Singlehandedly, he turned one of the most sympathetic popes and Roman Catholic administrations into a group of people absolutely hostile to any solar-centric scheme. The guy was a sarcastic b!stard who loved creating straw men, ridiculing their ideas, and knocking down his opponents with irony both in public and behind their backs with slander and insults.

Makes for instructive reading. ;)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:38 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>The guy was a sarcastic b!stard who loved creating straw men, ridiculing their ideas, and knocking down his opponents with irony both in public and behind their backs with slander and insults.</STRONG>
Please, tell me, what Galileo are you talking about?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 6:57 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Tom:
<STRONG>@ CE yes i think i agree take stalin out.</STRONG>
My worries about taking out Stalin has to do with Beria - I read some historian who thought Beria might have made peace with Germany before Stalingrad, if he had had his saying. I don't know how likely this is - history is by far my worst subject, I belive Fable can clear this out for me :)

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:07 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>Please, tell me, what Galileo are you talking about?</STRONG>
Galileo Galilei--why? Looking for references to the material I've mentioned, above?

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:12 pm
by fable
Originally posted by C Elegans:
<STRONG>My worries about taking out Stalin has to do with Beria - I read some historian who thought Beria might have made peace with Germany before Stalingrad, if he had had his saying. I don't know how likely this is - history is by far my worst subject, I belive Fable can clear this out for me :) </STRONG>
It's hard to analyze, in the absence of actual comparisons, how Beria rather than Stalin at that head of the Soviet Secretariat would have affected national and international policy. Certainly, Beria was more sane, in so far as common self-delusion goes; but he was also the man basically structured the KGB, and he was known for his ruthlessness. I suspect he would have been more dangerous in some respects, albeit less inclined to interfere with day-to-day operations of his subordinates.

Trotsky probably had no chance to get the helm, IMO. He was essential a brilliant philosopher and speaker. The fact that Stalin could do an end run around him testifies to his political naivety.

The horrors of Stalin are still largely unknown, here in the US. It's almost never realized that he was responsible for more deaths than Hitler.

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2001 7:16 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Galileo Galilei--why? Looking for references to the material I've mentioned, above?</STRONG>
Hmm...interesting...I've read several biographies about Galileo Galilei(one of which, the title of was "Galileo") and none of them put him in quite the light you put him in. *shrugs* Must just be varying author's views on Galileo's life or some such. I do agree though that Galileo is very interesting to read about.