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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 8:23 am
by Elenias Nal'nair
As for CRPGs most of my favourites are already listed (BG1/2 ,IWD ,Torment ,Might&Magic ,Eye of the Beholder, Ultima Underworld, Wizardry just to name a few).
As for P&P-RPGs:
AD&D (2nd, 3rd is sold out here), ShadowRun, Cyberpunk, Das schwarze Auge and BattleTech (P&P and tabletop)
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2001 4:03 pm
by Ron
Damn! I forgot about Might and Magic. Altho 8 was a little dissapointing.
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Just a couple ¢ from Ron!
[url="http://www.geocities.com/thesmh/"]Shadows of the Midnight Hour[/url]
My Ultima Online Guild Page
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 7:27 am
by Craig
agias theres abug/virus in your story
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Craig lover of Onions,user of Hammers and player of RPG's across the world
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 9:34 am
by Aegis
explain....
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"We should find more of these.... glues you keep taking about"
"There CLUES"
"Ya ya, whatever. Geez, one letter off, so crucify me!"
Religious ones should get this, if you don't and want to, just ask.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 6:42 pm
by Weasel
There wasn't one in the file you sent me.
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The Defender of Truth
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 7:12 pm
by Alienbob
"Personally i like the Final Fantasy Series" -Aegis
"You start talking about NES, SNES, and PS i can handle that" -Weasel
"Hell ill never drop my SNes FF2 and FF3! Classics." -Ron
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!! Console gamers! EVIL! EVIL!!!! EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!! Repent from you're unrighteous ways and seek retribution for your sins hethens, or feel the sting of my PC Defender(halberd +4, +10 vs console gamers)!
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Alienbob, hunter of the undead, slayer of the unjust, bringer of light, destroyer of evil.
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 8:07 pm
by Ron
Hmmmmm, All I gotta say Bob is.
"Go For the Eyes Boo go for the Eyes!"
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Just a couple ¢ from Ron!
[url="http://www.geocities.com/thesmh/"]Shadows of the Midnight Hour[/url]
My Ultima Online Guild Page
Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2001 8:13 pm
by Alienbob
Hey Boo is a good guy...er...hampster. hes on my team not yours!
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Alienbob, hunter of the undead, slayer of the unjust, bringer of light, destroyer of evil.
Console Gamers Suck!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 1:43 am
by Ron
*grabs boo's hind legs*
"hes mine i tell you mine!"
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Just a couple ¢ from Ron!
[url="http://www.geocities.com/thesmh/"]Shadows of the Midnight Hour[/url]
My Ultima Online Guild Page
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 2:07 am
by Weasel
Well your welcomed to join Alienbob.
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The Defender of Truth 
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 3:44 am
by Rail
Ah, Weasel, the master manipulator.
Why was it again that there was some opposition to the suggestion of you becoming a moderator? I can't recall.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 4:02 am
by Weasel
@Rail...Well I can....
Because I am the Master Manipulator HAHAHAHA
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The Defender of Truth
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 1:24 pm
by Carrot
I would have to say the whole ff series. Altough don't know how mentioned this before 8 was a little dissapointing. 7 was great but my favorite will always be ff3. It was a rpg that kept me busy over 2 years and then I finally finished with a book. After that the longest that I have ever been with a rpg was 7 months or so. I was told that ff10 and 11 will only be playable over the Internet. You would have to have a partner to play the game. Does anyone know anything about this.
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Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 5:41 pm
by Weasel
@Carrot... I'll have a look around the internet and see if I can get any info.
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The Defender of Truth
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2001 5:46 pm
by Alienbob
Weasel you suck.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 2:02 am
by Weasel
@Carrot here is what I could find [url="http://Thegia.com/"]http://Thegia.com/[/url] hope this helps you.
@Alienbob... What would your problem be??
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Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 9:35 am
by Radek
I am an OS/2 adherent, therefore, I don't tolerate Windows at all. I install Windows inly if I want to play a contemporary RPG. That's why my favorites are rather old.
1. TES Arena (Betsehda) - it's better than Daggerfall
2. Albion (Blue Byte)
3. Star Trail (Blue Byte)
4. Ishar 2 (Silmarils) - yes, it is still playable!!
5. Might & Magic 7 (oh well, Windows, ueee)
6. Gates of Skeldal (a Czech RPG unknown to anybody outside Czech Republic)
Something is missing? No, it is not! I cannot place BG2 in my hall of fame! Too many hack'n'slash elements are present in the game. Examples:
a) Forced bad readiness: Powerful spells like paralyzation or charm-like spells have area effect in BG2 and are used by any spellmonger at every corner. You cannot do much against them. Well, you can pray to your Gods. A well behaved RPG uses such spells a a rare spice and allows protection against them.
b) Big Fun: Everyone who tried Witchaven-like stupidities knows that. You are going through a passage and suddenly you are dead. Oh well, there was a trap on the floor... And what about BG2? What about all those Death spells, Power Words Kill, Imprisonments, and so on, and so on? Well, you have Death Ward spell but you have only few such spells. What to do when they wear off? It is the same problem as sub a).
c) Impossible battles: Impossible in the sense that it is considered normal that somebody will die or that you will restart the game several times before you win the battle. In well behaved RPGs, death of a hero is always a result of a rough error of the player.
d) Forced evil quests: When the Mentors complain about computer games, they complain about violence, about murders and so on... Well, the games themselves aren't bad. What about Bible? How much violence and murders is there! And what about fairy tales? About history? Violence itself isn't bad in principle. But violence must be "good", not "evil". When the violence is evil then the Mentors are correct. "Kill your friend! Now look at USA schools! A result of computer games!!", says the Mentor. Sorry, the Mentor is partly correct. Let us return to BG2. What can we say about Edwin's quests? And about Drow City? About solutions?? Drow City - tortured genie: correct solution is KILL THE GENIE, not kill the torturers!
That's why BG2 is missing.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 12:54 pm
by Carrot
Thanks Weasel for the info but like I said it will only be playable over the Internet even tho it was only 11.
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 1:48 pm
by Aegis
FF3 was one of the greats (now FF6 here for some reason) The problem with those games are that people are only getting into them because their retro! Well, I have been a hardcore FF fan since the beginning, but I'm not as a ig of one now. You wanna know why? The damn futureistic plot lines! Come on! You don't want to Role Play in a world that you can do stuff in for reality! Plus, who the hell uses a sword when going up againest guns! If you ask me, thats a death wish waiting to happen. Also, in FF7, all those guns did pidely-sh!t to the people, yet their are summon creatures and materia! Why use the pea-shooters when you can summon huge, walking death mongers! Then, with Sepheroth! If he was so all powerful, and all mighty, and you were supposed to kill him, and he knew that, why didn't he kill when he got the chance? So, I have a lot to gripe about the FF7-8. They both sucked, royally! Thats why I loved FF: Tactics, and I enjoy FF9, because they are back at the roots of true RPG's. The fanatsy bassed genre was meant for sword and sorcery, not bullets. If people want a RPG with guns, play Shadow Run, or V:tM. The FF series should've never sold out to what a small amount of people want. It should've stuck with what worked, good old blockheads.
Oh well, thats my rant. I hope you enjoyed. You can catch my performance again at 2:00, and 7:00 at the motel on the corner. No encores though...
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I am the defender of the light! The champion of Justice! And the slayer of really big lizards!
Posted: Thu Jan 25, 2001 3:02 pm
by Weasel
@Aegis.. I have to agree ..the last two I got I didn't even finish
Now I did enjoy FF:Tactics and I for one can remember the black wizard and the white wizard. Those were the best FF games.
@Carrot yes from what I read that would seem to be the case...I don't think it will last though...Square Soft tried to go to a futuristic look and has changed back now and I believe that online FF will head back to the basics too.
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The Defender of Truth