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Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 3:42 am
by Xyx
I suppose I'm with VonDondu, Littiz, JackOfClubs and serjeLeBlade then. Image

I don't see a real difference between Jonny's crib and the other dungeons. It's balanced and varied and offers much in the ways of plot and combat. That should make it fun, right? The only thing that bothers me is the long walks for the Chaos Sword and the acorns.

I wholly support this mod, however. I don't expect others to feel the same way I do.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:27 am
by Khazad
IN MY BEST SIMPSON'S ANDROID DUNGEON OWNER VOICE:

"BEST MOD EVER!!!"

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 7:05 pm
by Aqua-chan
Alright, so, can somebody please tell my why it's not working?

Started a new game with a Bard, Irenecus scene ends, Imoen comes.... Nothing. Talk to Minsc (No intentions of talking to Jaheira), walked around for a few minuts, moved into other rooms and...nothing. Where am I supposed to meet this guy?

*sigh* By the time somebody replies to this, I'm gonna be halfway done with this stupid dungeon anyways.

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2002 11:46 pm
by jcompton
I would strongly suspect it's because you didn't install it properly. Paste up the content of Setup-DungeonBeGone.debug, which you should find in your BG2 main directory.

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2002 7:55 pm
by Aqua-chan
...

Didn't I tell you all that by the time somebody replied, I'd be done with that dungeon?!

*Grr*

Guess I have to restart my game and try again!

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2002 2:27 am
by VonDondu
Looks like there are at least a few other people here who don't have a problem with Irenicus's dungeon. Thanks. :)

But the MOD is definitely welcome. Sometimes when I'm playing the game in Irenicus's dungeon, I wish that I could get out of there and go other other places and do something else in the game. It makes me feel trapped. I guess that's what it feels like to be a prisoner. Come to think of it, my character IS a prisoner. What do you know? :)

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 9:54 am
by serjeLeBlade
Originally posted by UncleScratchy
Of all the mods I've seen, this has got to be the worst idea yet for improving game interest.


Come on, we shouldn't be so hard to jcompton and all the Forgotten Wars crew! I'm sure that they did it because there were people asking for it!

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2002 11:30 pm
by UserUnfriendly
check wes site for improved illych....

any way i tried mod just to explore the very very funny dialog, read

secret diaries of salvonia the druid

in fanfic of forgotten wars for a taste...

and boy is the dialog a riot....

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 2:16 am
by VonDondu
Originally posted by UncleScratchy
Of all the mods I've seen, this has got to be the worst idea yet for improving game interest...
What about my suggestion for skipping the first six chapters? :)

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 4:46 am
by Aubrey
From a role-playing view I, too, disagree with the prospect of "deleting" Chapter 1. VonDondu's description of feelings, atmosphere, etc., while one is fighting one's way towards the exit, was well-put and an accurate one.

However, after a lot of replaying, it seems one of the most boring dundgeons to me, especially with all those forths and backs, when you are supposed to be in a hurry to get out. Anyway, I'll try the mod soon, and I'll come back...

Cheers

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 11:30 am
by jcompton
The solution seems to be simple to me.

Hardcore completists: Don't use DBG.

Non-hardcore completists who want to get the full effect for their gameplaying experience this session: Don't use DBG.

Non-hardcore completists who just want to get to Athkatla and the non-linear portion of the game quicker: Use DBG.

Cheesemongers: Complete the Irenicus dungeon AND use DBG, thereby doubling your haul of good stuff.

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2002 7:54 pm
by VonDondu
Originally posted by jcompton
Cheesemongers: Complete the Irenicus dungeon AND use DBG, thereby doubling your haul of good stuff.
Now you're talking. Not to mention you get to enjoy the extra dialogue. :)

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:13 am
by UserUnfriendly
or, as someone pointed out in the forgotten wars forum, kill him!!!!!!

you get most of the loot, and you can still go thru chapter one, so you get double the loot....

hhhehehhehehehheh,,,,,,

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:23 am
by Jaesha
Well what happens if you kill him? (it is the bard goddess´ favorite immortal loveslave you´re talking about, is it not sir? :D )

*flashes claws and whiskers*

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 1:19 pm
by Khazad
As near as I can tell, the whole thing is optional....So, if you don't like it, don't use it! Either don't download it, or if you do download it just to try it out, fine....After you try it, never talk to the guy again and just play out the dungeon like normal....

I don't see what the big deal is....I have played that dungeon a bazillion times and am tired of it.....I like dungeon-be-gone......

Since I started using dungeon-be-gone, sometimes, in the true spirit of an RPG player, I still use my "imagination" to "pretend" that I played the dungeon......

However, those of you that want to play the dungeon a bazillion and first time, more power to you!

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 2:04 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Khazad
As near as I can tell, the whole thing is optional....So, if you don't like it, don't use it!


I think that pretty much states it. Nobody is being forced to use DBG. If you don't like it, please don't flame the developers.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 8:49 pm
by jcompton
Originally posted by Jaesha
Well what happens if you kill him? (it is the bard goddess´ favorite immortal loveslave you´re talking about, is it not sir? :D )



His corpse has most but not all of the items. You don't get the XP, and I'm pretty sure you don't get the gold.

There are no safeguards built in, because it wasn't terribly important to Blue to stop you doing something like that. And I support that decision.

Posted: Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:17 pm
by UserUnfriendly
well, we like it...i just think its funny that in the bg world,

"just kill it"

is so often a valid solution for every situation...

hehhehe,,,,,,

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 2:24 am
by Coot
Originally posted by VonDondu
What about my suggestion for skipping the first six chapters? :)


There already is a mod for that... it's called ToB and you can start playing it without ever playing SoA... :rolleyes: ;)

Posted: Wed Oct 23, 2002 7:45 am
by Leonardo
There already is a mod for that... it's called ToB and you can start playing it without ever playing SoA...

Yes, but that will cost you around $60... DBG is free! :D :D :D
Great mod.