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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2002 10:06 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Knight Errant:
<STRONG>I want to see HMS Pinafor (sp) really badly, but being a stereo typical poor teenager in a small town I rarely see any good drama. (If anyone has HEARD of Saskatoon Saskatchewan I'll be impressed)
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I've heard of it, but it's no big deal. Now, if I lived in Mexico and heard of it, you'd have reason to be impressed. :D

A few other works to look for:

Stabat Mater by Szymanowski. The Stabat Mater is a standard form of Marian worship within the RCC, but Szymanowski was no standard Catholic. He was a student of the mid-East at the turn of the 20th century, and his Stabat Mater is eerily beautiful. Very atypical religious music.

Respighi's Ancient and Airs and Dances, Suites #1-3. Great stuff. Respighi was composing long before Renaissance music was rediscovered, so he went through old Italian manuscripts, reorchestrating wonderful Italian airs and dances for modern performance. The results are just great fun to listen to.

Gliere's Symphony #3 (subtitled "Ilya Murometz"). Gliere was a big believer in Russian nationalism in music, long after the styles changed. But during his prime, he wrote this huge, epic of a symphony, depicting the stories in the so-called Kiev Cycle (a group of pagan folk legends that survived beyond the forced acquisition of Christianity in Russia). There are battles with monsters, huge mountains to travel across, forests as large as a country, magic and gorgeous women. The work is filled with Russian color and folk melody. If you like that sort of thing (and I do), go for it. :D

Rachmaninoff's Piano Concerto #2 is another extremely Russian work, but much more melancholy. It's a grand, theatrical work of vast, romantic gestures, and has always been a great favorite with classical audiences. As much can be said for the same composer's Symphony #2--highly recommended. And his seldom-heard Vespers (for the evening service of the Eastern Orthodox Church; though they can't actually be sung in Church, since women aren't allowed to sing there, and Rachmaninoff refused to change this requirement) is a huge, sad, beautiful work that can be enjoyed simply for its mood, and without regard to its religious text (which is in Russian, anyway).

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:14 pm
by Morlock
@KE: I have one thing to say to you.

He is an English man!

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2002 3:53 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Morlock:
<STRONG>@KE: I have one thing to say to you.

He is an English man!</STRONG>
Ah, Pinafore...

For he himself has said it
And it’s greatly to his credit
That he is an Englishman!
For he might have been a Roosian,
A French, or Turk, or Proosian,
Or perhaps Itali-an!
But in spite of all temptations,
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman,
An Englishman!

Brings a tear to the eye and the kidneys. :(

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2002 4:28 am
by Morlock
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Ah, Pinafore...
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Pintafore is how it is spelled I believe.

but my favorite G & S songs will always be
"Modern major general" and "a pirate king".

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2002 7:50 am
by fable
It's HMS Pinafore. The Pinafore part refers to an article of clothing: somewhat similar to an apron for little girls. The ridicule was deliberate, as it was in Pirates of Penzance--Penzance being (at the time of the work's creation) a sort of middle class resort community on the coast.

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2002 12:52 pm
by Obsidian
But in spite of all temptations,
To belong to other nations,
He remains an Englishman,
An Englishman!
hehe, ohh my. Anyone here read Lord of the Flies?
Other than fable that is.
I think it was piggy who said
"We shouldn't act like this, we're british"

He didnt last to long. Well, he was around a lot, he just
SPOILER


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Died near the end.

Ahh, that book was so chalk filled of symbolic goodness you end up analyzing cartoon shows.