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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:02 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
Time travel is impossible because in order to time travel, every event must be happening over and over again at any given moment, and if this randomness became jumbled we'd be like in the year 2050 and not know it.
Technically, I'm sure this year would be all messed up if we erased one person from time... I mean, if we erased George Washington because say, we didn't like that stupid wig he wore, America wouldn't be the sam and

pennies would have someone else on them!
BTW, Charles Darwin sounds good to me... since there's no solid evidence of evolution... and he couldn't even do math, yet we let one man's THEORY be taught as truth in the world.
*goes back to 1850* >=)
*bang* WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:08 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>Time travel is impossible because in order to time travel, every event must be happening over and over again at any given moment...</STRONG>
...and that's exactly what's happening. Give the man a free tofuburger!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:11 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>Time travel is impossible because in order to time travel, every event must be happening over and over again at any given moment, and if this randomness became jumbled we'd be like in the year 2050 and not know it.</STRONG>
I don't know where you came up with this, but you're a bit off. Time Travel is theoretically possible. However, the most likely explaination for the temporal paradox of changing the past is that everything that has happened has happened, even if we haven't gone back to make it happen. If you need a better explanation, read Time Enough For Love by Robert A. Heinlein. It shows a good example of this.
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>Technically, I'm sure this year would be all messed up if we erased one person from time... I mean, if we erased George Washington because say, we didn't like that stupid wig he wore, America wouldn't be the sam and

pennies would have someone else on them!</STRONG>
Refer to what I said about the temporal paradoxes of changing the past.
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>BTW, Charles Darwin sounds good to me... since there's no solid evidence of evolution... and he couldn't even do math, yet we let one man's THEORY be taught as truth in the world.</STRONG>
Actually, evolution isn't "one man's theory," or rather, that one man isn't Darwin. There were evolutionists prior to Darwin. (C E, correct me if I'm not quite exact on this next statement. I'm a Physicist not a biologist.

) Darwin was the "father," or protagonist(?), of the modern theorem of Evolution.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:14 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
@SS = I can't win....

every time I post you prove me wrong

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:16 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
Wait! I get it! If we were to change the past, then the past before it could NEVER have happened! That would mean this could be the 43rd time through today and we just would not know it...
That would explain deja vu flashes...
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:23 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>@SS = I can't win....

every time I post you prove me wrong

</STRONG>
Gomen, gomen, Sandy-kun. Blame fable, he's the one that got me into this mode.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:26 pm
by nael
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
<STRONG>
if we erased George Washington because say, we didn't like that stupid wig he wore, America wouldn't be the sam and

pennies would have someone else on them!
</STRONG>
pennies have abe lincoln on them...or maybe they do now, but they used to have george washington on them...*eerie music plays in background*
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:28 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
Originally posted by nael:
<STRONG>
Originally posted by Shadow Sandrock:
[qb]
if we erased George Washington because say, we didn't like that stupid wig he wore, America wouldn't be the sam and

pennies would have someone else on them!
</STRONG>
pennies have abe lincoln on them...or maybe they do now, but they used to have george washington on them...*eerie music plays in background*[/QB]
Dollars bills.. Oopsies

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:29 pm
by Shadow Sandrock
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>Gomen, gomen, Sandy-kun. Blame fable, he's the one that got me into this mode.

</STRONG>
your forgiven

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 4:49 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>Gomen, gomen, Sandy-kun. Blame fable, he's the one that got me into this mode.

</STRONG>
Argumentative and stubborn? Nah. You've been managing that for quite a while without any help, @SS.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:07 pm
by humanflyz
Regarding the Darwinian theory of evolution:
I think there is certain truth in Darwin's theory. I can see solid evidence that some part of it is true. That's one thing that I cannot deny. I am not one of those religious fanatics that damn people to Hell just because they mentioned the word "evolution". Most of the people that I know who condemn the evolution theory condemn it because they argue that the chances of nature selecting a precise trait that would help a species is too small, say maybe one out of 1 billionth. Therefore the evolution theory is not possible. I have a religion and I rather like to think that chance is controlled by a force and I am pretty happy with that. That's just my own opinion though, so please do not get offended.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:23 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>Actually, evolution isn't "one man's theory," or rather, that one man isn't Darwin. There were evolutionists prior to Darwin. (C E, correct me if I'm not quite exact on this next statement. I'm a Physicist not a biologist.

) Darwin was the "father," or protagonist(?), of the modern theorem of Evolution.</STRONG>
You are correct in this, SS. Darwin only laid a foundation to what is today's Theory of evolution, and he wasn't even the only one dealing with evolution back in his own time. It wouldn't make a difference if Darwin had never been born.
As I've mentioned before, the cornerstone of modern evolution science is molecular genetics. So Eminem and Shadow Sandrock would have to wish tens of thousands of people dead, including this years Nobel prize winners in medicine, who got awarded for their cell cycle discoveries that have lead to new methods for curing cancer. (Just an example of how far the theory of evolution streches into different areas of science. It would be very difficult to get rid of it.)
My personal choice is more and more swaying towards Stalin.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:41 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Argumentative and stubborn? Nah. You've been managing that for quite a while without any help, @SS.

</STRONG>
No, I'm naturally argumentative and stubborn. What you did is get me into a mindset to state what I see as the flaws in people's statements.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:45 pm
by fable
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>No, I'm naturally argumentative and stubborn. What you did is get me into a mindset to state what I see as the flaws in people's statements.

</STRONG>
Then ring me up when you start finding any. In the meantime I'm going to get a Dr. Pepper.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 5:53 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by fable:
<STRONG>Then ring me up when you start finding any. In the meantime I'm going to get a Dr. Pepper.

</STRONG>
Ah, yes, there's nothing quite like a bottle of Dr. Pepper after a fun little debate.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 7:32 pm
by Weasel
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>No, I'm naturally argumentative and stubborn. What you did is get me into a mindset to state what I see as the flaws in people's statements.

</STRONG>
True enlightment comes when you can see the flaws in yourself.
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 7:44 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by Weasel:
<STRONG>True enlightment comes when you can see the flaws in yourself.</STRONG>
But I have no flaws. I'm a perfect little angel.
*giggles as her halo falls off* Hehe, oops.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 7:50 pm
by C Elegans
Originally posted by Sailor Saturn:
<STRONG>No, I'm naturally argumentative and stubborn. What you did is get me into a mindset to state what I see as the flaws in people's statements.

</STRONG>
The art of participating in debate, as opposed to just ventilating personal opinions, is something that also requires detection of flaws in ones own statements.
It's obvious you are from another planet - you must use other standards for logics and logic arguments over there

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2001 7:57 pm
by Sailor Saturn
Originally posted by C Elegans:
<STRONG>The art of participating in debate, as opposed to just ventilating personal opinions, is something that also requires detection of flaws in ones own statements.
It's obvious you are from another planet - you must use other standards for logics and logic arguments over there

</STRONG>
Actually, I make note of almost every flaw in every thing I say during a debate. I note it, deduce how my opponent will twist/manipulate the flaw against me, and deduce a way to manipulate/twist their manipulation/twisting back on them.

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2001 8:33 am
by Yshania
Posted by SS -
Actually, I make note of almost every flaw in every thing I say during a debate. I note it, deduce how my opponent will twist/manipulate the flaw against me, and deduce a way to manipulate/twist their manipulation/twisting back on them.
lol! but with all this twisting and turning how do you stay focused?
