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Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:27 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
<STRONG>offsides are quite hard to understand. do you understand them? ive started playing football with offsides for a local under 14s football club and its really confusing.</STRONG>
Offside, (in european football?) is when an attackin player is "ahead" (closer to other teams goal) of the defending player closest to his goal, at the time of the ball being passed to him. (not when he recives the ball)
(did you understand this?

)
It is a tricky rule.
...a1
g.....d
........a2
a2 passes the ball to a1 and a1 is offside
....a1
g..d
........a2
a2 passes to a1 and a1 is not offside (online)
[ 09-01-2001: Message edited by: Xandax ]
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:30 pm
by rapier
Originally posted by T'lainya:
<STRONG>It's not a swear word, just an insult...
And there are rules about flaming

</STRONG>
Bah, insult...that isn't an insult...
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:44 pm
by Stoner Cold
i know how it works, just using an offside trap is difficult in the middle of a game
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:52 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
<STRONG>i know how it works, just using an offside trap is difficult in the middle of a game</STRONG>
Oh - I misuderstood you then.
Well actually if your team is use to each other it is quite simple (but simplicity can often fail).
Just be sure that your center defender (or one of them) useally plays furthest towards the goal, so he is the only one that needs to move a couple of step forward for the trap to spring
(of course the reason such a trap fails most often, is because the wing-defender is sleeping and not paying attention to the middle defender

)
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 2:57 pm
by Yshania
Please excuse my excitement and bear in mind what a momentus occasion...
5-1!
5-1!
5-1!
Ohhhhhh!!! Michael Owen, Michael Michael Michael Oooowwen
Ohhhhhh!!! Michael Owen, Michael Michael Michael Oooowwen
What a most fantastic result!!!!
2-1 acceptable - 5-1 unbelievable
Germany 1 (after 6 minutes) England 5 at full time (I cannot cope with the excitement )
@Stoner Cold - the word 'Soccer' is an abreviation of the word 'Association' as in Association Football...
As for the offside rule - in order for a pass to be on-side, the recipient must be at least in line with - but not beyond - the opposition's last line of defence (excluding the goal keeper) AT THE TIME the ball is released from the deliverer...
If the ball is passed to him just as he runs beyond the last defender - the recipient is offside...I hope that helps

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:02 pm
by Stoner Cold
oh, i always wondered where they got soccer from? but, wouldnt it be simpler just to nametheir new sport handball or something rather than try and change the name of an already popular and established game?
argh. i know how offsides and offside traps work. its just difficult to rememeber how to use them or use them at all when your running around the pitch in the middle of an actual game

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:04 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
<STRONG><snip>
argh. i know how offsides and offside traps work. its just difficult to rememeber how to use them or use them at all when your running around the pitch in the middle of an actual game

</STRONG>
Well then - practice it

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:10 pm
by Stoner Cold
ive played one game with them, gimme a chance

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:11 pm
by Yshania
Posted by Stoner Cold -
wouldnt it be simpler just to nametheir new sport handball or something rather than try and change the name of an already popular and established game?
Just out of interest, how long has American Football been around? The earliest registered UK 'Association' Football league teams were before 1890s. Rugby football followed soon after, where during a league soccer game a player picked up the ball and ran with it...
American Football resembles Rugby League more than 'soccer' and soccer has been around for years longer...

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:13 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
<STRONG><snip> wouldnt it be simpler just to nametheir new sport handball or something rather than try and change the name of an already popular and established game?
<snip></STRONG>
Well there is actually a big sport in the world called "Handball" (well on danish translated into english) - here at least Denmark is pretty good in the women-leauge
(Got one of the 2-3 best clubs in the world, and a good national team)
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:13 pm
by Xandax
Originally posted by Stoner Cold:
<STRONG>ive played one game with them, gimme a chance

</STRONG>
Well then - if you only played one game together, I can surly understand why your offside trap dosen't work

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:15 pm
by Stoner Cold
not 100% sure, but: football has been around, unofficaly, for hundreds of years. its beeen pro for a while now, i dunno how long. its been around longer than american football has been.
i know how rugby was started. and, FYI, its called rugby because it was started at some school or other called rugby
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:23 pm
by Yshania
Posted by Stoner Cold -
not 100% sure, but: football has been around, unofficaly, for hundreds of years. its beeen pro for a while now, i dunno how long. its been around longer than american football has been.
Ok - so are we arguing the same point here? Football IS soccer...

'Soccer' is NOT a new version of football it IS football as in Association Football - not as in American Football...
Posted by Stoner Cold -
i know how rugby was started. and, FYI, its called rugby because it was started at some school or other called rugby
Yup. Based in the midlands, UK.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:27 pm
by Stoner Cold
i was talking about soccer then. but since i'm english, i use it's real name

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:33 pm
by Yshania
Hehe - Stoner Cold - T'is great to be arguing about the same thing and both being right!
Re offside. Leave a central defender back. Have your remainding defenders play just in front. As your opposition pass the ball forward, have the same central defender run forward to play the 'recipient' off-side.
It sounds easy, but it does take a lot of practice to get the timing and communication right...

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 3:41 pm
by Stoner Cold
Originally posted by Yshania:
[QB]Hehe - Stoner Cold - T'is great to be arguing about the same thing and both being right!
Re offside. Leave a central defender back. Have your remainding defenders play just in front. As your opposition pass the ball forward, have the same central defender run forward to play the 'recipient' off-side.
QB]
i said why change the name, not change the sport
3rd time- i know how it works.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 6:48 pm
by Vinin
Ugh.....soccer,football,soccer,football
I think the game just sucks overall.
HOCKEY FOREVER
Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 7:58 pm
by average joe
Originally posted by Vinin:
<STRONG>Ugh.....soccer,football,soccer,football
I think the game just sucks overall.
HOCKEY FOREVER</STRONG>
I'm with ya there, Vinin...well, except for football and soccer sucking. I respect both sports, but hockey is by far the greatest.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2001 8:10 pm
by Meerlight
Average Joe: You wouldn't by chance be a Dallas Stars fan? I have loved Hockey for a long time and it is the best sport.
If you're a Dallas Stars fan, I might tell you that I am a huge fan of the Los Angeles Kings and we are now mortal enemies.

Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2001 5:30 am
by Georgi
Originally posted by Yshania:
<STRONG>Ohhhhhh!!! Michael Owen, Michael Michael Michael Oooowwen
Ohhhhhh!!! Michael Owen, Michael Michael Michael Oooowwen</STRONG>
I second that!
Michael Michael Michael Oooowwen
