Baldur’s Gate and D & D Are Truly Evil

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Postby Doltan » Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:30 pm

I want to defend Waverly here (not that he needs help). His point was that the Bible has often been misunderstood and misused. For example, there is nothing in the Bible that says that we should kill people who don't believe what we believe. Yet, that didn't stop a bunch of medieval Christians, led by humans hungering for power and influence, to launch the Crusades. If you read the Bible, as I've done a little, you can see that there are tons of quotes that can be easily used to mean whatever you want them to mean (especially out of context, which is the current problem with a lot of the right wing politics in the US).

As for the Middle East, well, the Jews and Arabs are doing a pretty good job of killing themselves. Anyone who seriously reads the Bible would never wish that on anyone.
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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:32 pm

@waverly:
didn't get you for a minute, did I?
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Postby Waverly » Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:34 pm

Nope, foul, but I dedided to throw my hat in anyway. No one with a signature twisted from fragments of Conan's 'what is best in life' answer and Tolkeins epic can be all bad.
Then darkness took me, and I strayed out of thought and time

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Postby Malachai » Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:51 pm

In reference to the initial post: Yeah, Yeah.. They came up with that same crap 20 years ago when D&D first came out. Apparently you aren't familiar with church history...closed-minded, right-thinking, God fearing individuals protesting the very same things you are were responsible for some of the most deplorable, violent, inhumane acts against humanity EVER. Thanks for your concern..

Now, if you don't mind, I need to summon a demon and check on my prostitutes..

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Postby Anatres » Fri Jan 12, 2001 12:59 pm

Gruntboy; Ahhh, I see. Fiction drawn from verbal history and mythology. Still doesn't make it 'THE-WORD-OF-GOD' in my estimation.... Now the Kama Sutra on the other hand...... Image

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Postby Weasel » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:05 pm

Originally posted by FoulDwimmerlaik:


Young person, if you want to be successful, productive, well-adjusted, and
happy, then refuse to fill your wonderful mind with such garbage! Don't
allow someone else to take control of your mind. Think too much of yourself
to become a tool in the hands of those whose interest is to get your money
and destroy your faith in God.




Foul this is not an attack on you or anyone else just my opinion. (Anti-flame Shield in place)

IMHO all religion is a means to control a group of people. Now I do believe with out it there would be total chaos.

'Quote >'interest is to get your money ' which is what churches want too.

I'm not saying not to believe in what every you want too. I'm saying don't force your belief on me or the next person.

Alright let the flames start.

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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:10 pm

@wease
check my last couple of posts in this thread. Last thing I am is religious, conservative, or (god/satan/talos forbid) anti-RPG. Just checking to see who was in the house...
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Postby Weasel » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:20 pm

Originally posted by FoulDwimmerlaik:
@wease
check my last couple of posts in this thread. Last thing I am is religious, conservative, or (god/satan/talos forbid) anti-RPG. Just checking to see who was in the house...


That I did before I posted .That is why I said this is not an attack on no one. Just my opinion.

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Postby Drakron Du´Dark » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:23 pm

Originally posted by FoulDwimmerlaik:
After extensive research, it has been concluded that both are
,instead of a games, actually a teaching on
demonology, witchcraft, voodoo, murder, rape, blasphemy, suicide,
assassination, insanity, sex perversion, homosexuality, prostitution, Satan
Worship, gambling, Jungian psychology, barbarism, cannibalism, sadism,
desecration, demon summoning, necromantics, divination and many more
teachings, brought to you in living color direct from the pit of hell!!!"

A principle laid down long ago by God is: " For as he thinketh in his heart,
so is he" (Proverbs 23:7). "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of
it are the issues of life" (Proverbs 4:23). We ARE what we THINK. It is
ridiculous to believe that people, young or old, can absorb their minds with
violence, murder, human sacrifice, suicide, demonology, rape, desecration,
defecation, sadism, cannibalism, sex perversion, insanity, prostitution,
necromantics, Satan worship, witchcraft, and every other form of perverted
and violent conduct without being intensely - and perhaps permanently -
affected adversely. We ARE what we THINK!

Young person, if you want to be successful, productive, well-adjusted, and
happy, then refuse to fill your wonderful mind with such garbage! Don't
allow someone else to take control of your mind. Think too much of yourself
to become a tool in the hands of those whose interest is to get your money
and destroy your faith in God.




Really, you are NOT religious, well It does not look that way.


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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:27 pm

D d'D:
I'm actually a priest, and am appaled by the black witchcraft I see discussed here, corrupting the minds of our children and dragging society down into the depths of depravety and mindless evil.

*Dons habit of protection from fire*
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Postby Ubik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:39 pm

hahahaha

LOL@Foul

sure, and I am a cultist from the Cthulian Church of the Upcoming Apocalypse, trying to gain some new recruits...


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Postby Waverly » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:41 pm

Shush, Ubik. We are not to speak of the Eldar gods.
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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:42 pm

I can't join, because upon entering the priesthood, I had to make my vows, all the usual, the father, the son and Shub-Niggurath, Goat With One Thousand Young.

So, I'm taken.
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Postby Ubik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:46 pm

U-huh!!! Lots of followers of the Elders here!!!!

Ok, ok, I will not speak a word further. I swear to Yog Sothoth and to the one without a name Image
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Postby Waverly » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:52 pm

lol. nice to see alumni from Miskotonic Univ.
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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 2:58 pm

I would tell you about my time @ the old school, but the horror of those days is indescribable, it would break your mind to try and fathom the unimaginable, unspeakable monstrosities that were visited upon us....
What? Haven't you heard? God is dead! -FWN

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Postby Anatres » Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:09 pm

Being the Kwisatz Haderach makes it impossible for me to join any other religion. Although all of you are welcome to join my jihad against the evil imperial houses and slay a few Sardakar!

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Postby FoulDwimmerlaik » Fri Jan 12, 2001 3:14 pm

THE SPICE MUST FLOW! Feel the fouldwimmer gom-jabbar!


Fear is the mind-killer, I must face my fear and let it pass through me...
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Postby Ivanhoe » Fri Jan 12, 2001 7:16 pm

You're all doomed. Doomed I tell you.

SHE's watching.