Biggest Backstab

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Biggest Backstab

Postby Heyward DeMonquis » Tue Jan 02, 2001 8:05 pm

Alright, for all you thieves out there...

What's the biggest backstab you've ever done...BG1 or 2?

Mine's 101...by my main char...
Coran did 100 with the Titan strength potion in BG1...

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Postby Elenias Nal'nair » Tue Jan 02, 2001 8:26 pm

this topic is alread existing (thanx to Bordin Steelaxe IIRC) but anyway:
with a critical or without?
100 in BG1 would be much for a non-critical, but with a potion it's easy, for the potion itself dealt out 70. Once did 80 without potion or critical in BG1, must have been a Lucky Strike(TM).
101 in BG2 is not that much because of the awesome equipment available...check former topic for valid records...

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Postby Heyward DeMonquis » Tue Jan 02, 2001 8:32 pm

Sorry 'bout the redundancy...
long-time listener, first-time caller...
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Postby Siike » Wed Jan 03, 2001 7:09 am

Str bonus is applied after backstabb multiplier, so even 25 str would give "only" 14 to damage.

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Postby Elenias Nal'nair » Wed Jan 03, 2001 7:24 am

yes, in theory. BG2 was said (in the promo-time) to apply the STR-bonus after multipliing but these high backstabs wouldn't be possible with the STR excluded. Without any potions or criticals I never had backstabs under 60, mostly 75-90, some times more.

In BG1 the STR-bonus was multiplied, I'm sure about that. Bioware wanted to alter this but didn't touched it for some reason.

btw. a funny thing: The whole German version of D&D 2nd edition is buggy, because according to the rulebook (which I have right before me), STR-boni are applied before multipliing. Played this many years, even on Game conventions.

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Postby Mikko » Wed Jan 03, 2001 11:20 am

158 damage, assassin with 6x backstab multiplier and girdle of hill giant strength.

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Postby Genesis » Wed Jan 03, 2001 12:01 pm

158 damage. Multiclass thief/mage with girdle of frost giant str and Celestial fury

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Postby Elenias Nal'nair » Wed Jan 03, 2001 3:34 pm

Mikko, Genesis: critical or non-critical?

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Postby Genesis » Wed Jan 03, 2001 3:36 pm

Critical Hit!!! can't see how you could do that without a critical hit Image

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Postby Mikko » Wed Jan 03, 2001 3:43 pm

yup, critical hit
btw is 158 damage the limit for backstabs?
it's a bit strange that genesiss and me did the exact same amount of damage.

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Postby Genesis » Wed Jan 03, 2001 3:49 pm

Don't know if thats the limit...never got one that high again...got a few 90's and lower 100's but mostly 50's to 70's

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Postby Elenias Nal'nair » Wed Jan 03, 2001 4:35 pm

...strange indeed but possible. AFAIK there's no such thing as a limit on that, maybe theoretically. My best was 194 WITH a critical (blood and gibs all around like Quake3:Arena) but that's far from the record. IIRC highest without critical was about 108 or 110, highest with critical was beyond 200, like 212 or so.

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Postby Genesis » Wed Jan 03, 2001 4:39 pm

I'd guess that fighter/thief's would be able to do that high...my mage/thief just didn't quite pull it together i guess Image

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Postby Elenias Nal'nair » Wed Jan 03, 2001 4:57 pm

158...mage/thief...then I AM impressed! Had an elven mage/thief once, but he never crushed like that, maybe I was too soft with him...
nevertheless this one is sneaky. I loved this combo for sheer variety of possibilities...maybe I should search for the savegame...

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Postby Ron » Wed Jan 03, 2001 9:19 pm

Damnit how did you Backstab with a Katana, I was trying it and got that my weapon was too unstable or some crap like that.

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Postby Maurice » Thu Jan 04, 2001 6:54 am

In BG 1 my fighter/thief (dualed to thief at 6) made 108 as max (not sure if that was a critical but I think it was).

Funny enough, in BG 2 his max is ... also at 158! This one was a critical hit, no potions used.

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Postby renyu » Thu Jan 04, 2001 8:42 am

Originally posted by Genesis:
158 damage. Multiclass thief/mage with girdle of frost giant str and Celestial fury


how do u backstab with celestial fury when it is slashing

how do u backstab anyway never get it done

what - invisible then take a stabbing weapon then attack izzit?
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Postby Mikko » Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:12 am

Originally posted by renyu:
how do u backstab with celestial fury when it is slashing

how do u backstab anyway never get it done

what - invisible then take a stabbing weapon then attack izzit?



Just go hide in the shadows and stand behind someone (backstab you know, stab in the back not in his head)..then attack him with a shortsword/katana/longsword/dagger/other backstab weapons i forgot.

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Postby Gruntboy » Thu Jan 04, 2001 9:13 am

Just 'cos its slashing don't mean it can't backstab (longswords can too).
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Postby Genesis » Thu Jan 04, 2001 10:52 am

BTW my Mage/Thief did realy sweet backstabs only when his STR was enhanced by using a belt...ogre gauntlets or some potion or spell...otherwise with his original 18 str he could only muster around 50-60 on critical hits