Poll: underappreciated items?

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Poll: underappreciated items?

Postby Hazim ibn Gorion » Sun Nov 19, 2000 10:16 pm

Radishcat has asked what are our favorite items. I'd like to ask what people think are the most underappreciated items. They don't necessarily have to be super-powerful, but they should be something that people don't really talk much about but that have proven useful to you. In the favorites poll, I already mentioned Warblade +4, but I'll start off with three more weapons:

Spear +3, Impaler--The perfect weapon for Jahiera. Fast, druid-friendly, and VERY damaging.

Firetooth +3--a returning throwing dagger that does 2d4+3 damage. Ideal range weapon for the thief or mage on your christmas list.

Sling of Arvoreen +4--must-have for Aerie, since she can't use anything but slings and staffs anyway. Might as well make it badass.

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Postby Earcaraxe » Mon Nov 20, 2000 6:37 am

As underrated equipment, I guess I'll take all of the spears (they don't seem to be very popular, maybe because none of the NPCs can use them).

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Postby Mr Sleep » Mon Nov 20, 2000 6:41 am

Katanas, there are two +2's and there is one artifact Katana +3. Most of them are difficult to find.
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Postby Jurosementalistile » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:26 am

I agree about that spear. When I first saw it I thought shit, thats a lot of damage, but I think Earcaraxe is right, it's cause no-one can use it (except maybe Valygar, I think?).
That helmet that lets you cast Simulacrum seems pretty good, although I only only just got it and haven't used it yet. An extra 60% Keldorn weilding a +5 two handed sword sounds good to me.

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Postby daemon » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:29 am

I couldn't get the helm to work....

Does anyone know where Julov? is. I download the two bonus cd contents. Deidre works fine but I can't find Julov? . Any help would be appreciated....
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Postby Chade Fallstar » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:33 am

Yeah - the vhailor's helm (or something) would be great if it worked. Sometimes it just says 'save vs. spell' and nothing happens. And sometimes it works just fine (1 time out of 10)
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Postby Maurice » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:37 am

It seems everyone expects Julov to appear in the Adventurer's Mart ... I'm not different in that respect.

It took me a while, but eventually I found him in the Coppor Coronet.

About Vhailor's Helm: did anybody ever got it to work? I understood that when you use its special ability (some death spell), you actually use it on yourself ... is this true??

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Postby daemon » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:41 am

aaah - I'll have a look there then Image

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Postby Mr Sleep » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:43 am

The death spell is supposed to be dealt to others but i think it is a bug that uses it on you instead.

How many have the original or the downloaded this might make difference Image
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Postby Hazim ibn Gorion » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:43 am

The spear is perfect for Jahiera, you just have to give her the gauntlets of weapon expertise.

As for the bonus cd downloads, does anyone know a site where you can still get them? I'm supremely pissed at Bioware for starting this gaming caste system with the "bonus" and "collector's" editions and other such bullshit. I hope they don't set a precendent that becomes a norm. Image

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Postby Chade Fallstar » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:44 am

Julov is in Copper Coronet - near Anomen.
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Postby Chade Fallstar » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:49 am

Please ignore my last msg ... (refreshing once in a while would be kind'o nice)
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Postby Mr Sleep » Mon Nov 20, 2000 7:49 am

Check the archives of this very site and you should find some.

Ahhhh but you added the bit about nr. Anomen so that makes it different they could start searching in the Fighting arena Image

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Postby Nighthawk » Mon Nov 20, 2000 11:19 am

Underappreciated Items:

Arbane's Sword: +2 early in game and a great combo with web. Still listed in as my monks favorite weapon when I look at his info.

Impaler: Agreed. This is THE most damaging weapon in the game. (Assuming Str 21 with most weapons and Str 25 with Crom Faeyr. Of course, Crom Faeyr can be wielded 1-h.)

I wouldn't have considered Firetooth underrated, but I guess it isn't talked about that much...even though it's a +3 throwing dagger hits like a flaming +3 bastard sword!

I've never been able to get Vailor's helm to work either.

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Postby Bill » Mon Nov 20, 2000 2:16 pm

Another underappreciated weapon that i liked very much is the Club +2 gnasher.I had Jaheira equipped with it.
Its main advantage is that after a successful hit,it continues to do damage to the target (2 points/round for 3 rounds).Ideal to disrupt enemy clerics-after they get some hits,they try to cast healing spells,but they are disrupted.Jaheira wiped out almost any cleric in one-to-one fight with it.
You may have noticed that the extra items you get from the bonus cd,are associated with IWD and Ps:T.But i think that they didn't implement some weapons as they were in these games.This applies especially to Dak'kon's Zerth blade.I read its statistics (havent't bought any of these weapons) and in its description i didn't found anything about its most useful ability:to gain levels along with its wielder.Or is this happening ? Does the blade gain levels as in Ps:T ? (from +1, to +2,+3 and granting additional extra spells-the ideal weapon for any fighter/mage like Dak'kon was)
As for Vhailor (a former Mercykiller,now an animated suit of armor obsessed with justice)he didn't have any special helmet (i think),but he had an excellent axe,called "Final Judgement" (I think a +4).Why they didn't implement this,since axes are not that powerful in BG2 ?


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Postby HighWatcher Zubie » Mon Nov 20, 2000 3:59 pm

Frostreaver is a powerfull axe. +3, +1 cold, +1 acid

With Korgan weilding it, it can hurt.

Other than that, you're right
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Postby Mr Sleep » Tue Nov 21, 2000 7:02 am

The weapon did gain abilitis as you went up a level.

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For anyone who's played Planescape you know that all the friends die on the negative plane, how exactly do any of that equipment end up in Athkalta. It's cool how they tried to advertise the other games it just doesn't make any sense Image
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Postby Jurosementalistile » Tue Nov 21, 2000 7:13 am

I hace discovered something since last I replied to this topic. Bladesinger chain. I think I do remember someone else mentioning it, but I haven't heard much about it. I guess it could be because most people who play Fighter/Mages seem to use the Kensai kit. Not me. And one of the things that annoyed me most about my Fighter/Mage (Pure class) was that he looked stupid: Gallabanting(?) around without any armour on. Now I suppose in game terms it's not THAT good, but now my character can look stylish prancing around in his shiny geen armour. (It is the best option for a fighter/mage, isn't it?)

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Postby Chade Fallstar » Tue Nov 21, 2000 7:40 am

You might want to give a try to the Drow Elven Chainmail +3 (+5 Magic Resistance & Reduces casting time by 1) or absolutely the best item for fighter / mages that I have found - the Drow Adamantium Chain +5 (which is also considered elvenchain). You just have to sneak them out of underdark.

btw. your thief can wear those too.
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Postby Bill » Tue Nov 21, 2000 8:54 am

Mr Sleep : Actually you can resurect your companions before the final battle in Ps:T and aid you.Besides you can have them return safely back to Sigil.But you need high int and wisdom in order this option to be available to you.
Although the object descriptions in BG2 states that they all died,this is not true.Ps:T has at least 4 different endings.

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