Killing Renal Bloodscalp

This forum is to be used for all discussions pertaining to BioWare's Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn.
User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:
Killing Renal Bloodscalp

Postby RiPPeR » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:08 pm

i saw on this site that is possible to loot some boots of speed from renal body but i dont know how to kill him
anyone can help me?

User avatar
rapier
Posts: 1019
Joined: Sat Dec 30, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Postby rapier » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:09 pm

I know, Arkanis always showed up by me and killed my party...
Visit
[url="http://www.fanfiction.net"]www.fanfiction.net[/url]

User avatar
Slyweasel
Posts: 119
Joined: Fri Jan 19, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: USA
Contact:

Postby Slyweasel » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:14 pm

I believe the only way it is possible is to join Bodhi's side in Chapter 2 or 3.
Happy Spam!!!!!

User avatar
WarkAven
Posts: 23
Joined: Thu Feb 15, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: Denver, Colorado
Contact:

Postby WarkAven » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:21 pm

Originally posted by Slyweasel:
I believe the only way it is possible is to join Bodhi's side in Chapter 2 or 3.



That's right, this is one of the game's "
Defenses" against people who kills everything on their sight, if you killed renal bloodscap, and killed bodhi, then you won't have a story to go on, so BGII spawns this unbeatable guy and stops you

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Fri Feb 23, 2001 3:23 pm

but when a joined the vampires renal bloodscalp had disapeared into the second floor of the guild

User avatar
Angelus
Posts: 426
Joined: Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Postby Angelus » Sat Feb 24, 2001 5:49 am

Same thing hapened to me. I sided with Bodhi and she gave me the task to destroy the shadow thiefs. I went to their guildhouse but Bloodscalp was not there and I never met him again.
"Everybody wants to see justice done, to somebody else."

User avatar
Rasputin
Posts: 37
Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby Rasputin » Sat Feb 24, 2001 5:57 am

I suppose Bloodscalp is only necessary to give the mae'var quest - if you're with Bohdi you don't get it.

User avatar
Angelus
Posts: 426
Joined: Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Postby Angelus » Sat Feb 24, 2001 6:44 am

I did the Mae'var quest before I joined Bodhi but never got to fight Renal. Is it part of the thief stronghold quest? I never played that one.
"Everybody wants to see justice done, to somebody else."

User avatar
Giles the Sorcerer
Posts: 79
Joined: Sun Jan 21, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby Giles the Sorcerer » Sat Feb 24, 2001 12:25 pm

Here's a tip, summon as many things as possible (I.E fill that floor up) using the simacrulum bug with a wand of monster summoning and staff of elemental summoning.)

Then, only kill Renal, let the Assasins hack through a s@#tload of those suckers and be back in the Graveyard to sign up with Bodhi ASAP.

Who is Arkanas or whatever anyway? Someone in the PnP?
"Is THAT all you got to say?
"Ya didn't let me finish, I was also gonna tell ya to ...."

User avatar
Angelus
Posts: 426
Joined: Wed Feb 21, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: Germany
Contact:

Postby Angelus » Sat Feb 24, 2001 1:11 pm

@Giles: Arkanis is one of the shadow thiefs. I think he is there to prevent you from screwing up your game by killing Renal to early. You actually get to kill him(Arkanis) later if you side with Bodhi.
"Everybody wants to see justice done, to somebody else."

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Sat Feb 24, 2001 3:02 pm

yeah
i know this but when you can kill arkanis Renal Bloodscalp disapear from the 2º floor of shadow thieves guild

anyone have found a clue?

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Mon Feb 26, 2001 3:17 pm

pleaseanyone help mewith this!

User avatar
Radek
Posts: 322
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Contact:

Postby Radek » Tue Feb 27, 2001 2:07 am

Results of my "gazing on game loads" session:
I tried to get the boots regularly (all irregular ways are equivalent to CLUAConsole-creating the boots).
1. Bloodscalp cannot be attacked directly, this always invokes Arkanis Gath (AG for short).
2. Summoning a demon (oh no, that isn't me who is murdering here...) invokes AG as well.
3. Invisibility + Non-Detection improves nothing - AG sees invisible and detects non-detectable.
4. Sacrifying the final reward from Bloodscalp (i.e., doing the Mae'Var's Quest to the point after clearing the guild and then going to Bodhi - not to Renal - with a
hidden hope that the quest isn't over and Renal may be in the guild) does not work. The guild is reloaded as usual and Renal is gone.
5. Blade Barrier + Sanctuary does not work as well - AG is invoked.
6. Trying to run does not pass - AG is faster, moreover, AG has a ranged attack as well. I noticed that AG is always created near your protagonist so that your protagonist gets killed and the game ends.
7. Leave your party near exit from the building and send simulacrum to summon a demon (you can go to Renal with a single character) does not help - AG is invoked near the exit of the building.
Let us summarize: It is very nice that Renal Bloodscalp has the Boots of Speed but this knowledge seems to be completely worthless.

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Tue Feb 27, 2001 5:43 am

Then, if there is no way to kill him why he have so many stuff, i managed to kill him by clicking on all thieves to speak and when they where lookin at me i killed bloodscalp
he have so many stuff, short sword of backstabing , boots of speed, shadow armor
there's must be some way to kill him without AG coming for you

User avatar
Loredweller
Posts: 1681
Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2001 11:00 pm
Location: Latvia
Contact:

Postby Loredweller » Tue Feb 27, 2001 9:21 am

Two single questions:
1) if it is said what loot is on Bloodscalp fellow, how is it discovered? Extracting from bif's?
2)has anybody tried stealing?
TIA,
L.
Loredweller

-------------------
...for tomorrow never comes ...

User avatar
Radek
Posts: 322
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: Prague, Czech Republic
Contact:

Postby Radek » Wed Feb 28, 2001 5:52 am

1. Pickpocketing does not work: you obtain 2 nonmagical rings, 2 Poitons of Extra Healing and 1 Oil of Speed but no Boots of Speed, etc. Note: as far as pickpocketing is concerned, 135 for pick pockets is unsufficient, 175 is dangerous and 215 isn't enough. Well, Renal is a master thief. If you fail pickpocketing, AG is invoked.
2. Somebody published here that Renal Bloodscalp has Boots of Speed. I tried to get them immediately because I like to play a "trio" - having Boots of Speed for all my guys is extremely attractive idea for me.

User avatar
#Apocalypse#
Posts: 20
Joined: Mon Feb 26, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby #Apocalypse# » Wed Feb 28, 2001 1:45 pm

Originally posted by RiPPeR:
pleaseanyone help mewith this!

I have some ideas to kill Bloodscalp but I havent had the time to test em yet.
1. Summon pit fiend or something and then kick your mage straight away out of the group ( pick it up later again) Then the thieves maybe won't get angry.
2.Summon Djinni or an Efreeti, put it next to Bloodscalp and then attack your Djinni so he will turn against you ( and maybe the Shadow thieves) Maybe that AG won't appear by then.
3.First go to Underdark and try it again when yur back: maybe AG wont appear then, because you cant screw up the game anymore.
4. Use that mage spell ( teleport field?) which moves a person to somewhere else on the map on Bloodscalp. Then search him again and kill it, then maybe AG won't appear
(never used that spell so Im raelly not sure about this one)

PS: Somebody ever killed that AG?


------------------
Just hack & slash it.
Just hack & slash it.

User avatar
Genesis
Posts: 445
Joined: Tue Dec 12, 2000 11:00 pm
Location: South Bend,IN,USA
Contact:

Postby Genesis » Wed Feb 28, 2001 1:53 pm

Anyone tried to backstab him..if you get a crit hit and he dies in one hit will AG show up then?

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Thu Mar 01, 2001 9:02 am

Yeah he will show because the other shadow thives will turn hostile, only if u can kill everyone on the floor with 1 hit

User avatar
RiPPeR
Posts: 125
Joined: Thu Jan 25, 2001 11:00 pm
Contact:

Postby RiPPeR » Sat Mar 03, 2001 4:29 pm

So, can anyone tell me why there is saying that u can loot from renal if you cant do it by the game rules??