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Postby ll Headshots ll » Wed May 31, 2006 3:08 pm

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sorry about the double post guys but i forgot to mention that it would be good if you can stab someone in Fable and they will actually bleed and possibly die fron the wound but can like get healed up at a hospital or something : )

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Postby Elias De vere » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:32 pm

Firstly a sorry to all for the comments i am about to make.

If you want a long RPG, with HUGE customisation abilities in character selction go play Oblivion. If you want a quick fast paced, cool as hell action RPG play Fable. Fable was perfect as it was just pure fun. It had some of the funniest game moments ever in. So what do i want in Fable 2. Firstly, game difficulty to stay as it is, as it was really good fun the first one even though i only completed the game at normal difficulty. Play as female, BUT only if you finish the game as a male. Jack to return as he was one of the coolest villians well EVER. More pytonesque humour, possible cameo by Knights who say Ni if possible. Game length roughly same, as it was how an action RPG should be. Quick and fun, but extremely memorable. Maybe some cool telekinetic spell, like Darth Vader choke thing, and pick people and fling them around. That would be bloody cool. Finally, what i want to make Fable 2 even better than Fable, even though Fable is one of my favourite games ever, A main quest where to get a mystical key of some sorts, you need to deliver a....SHRUBBERY to the knights who say NI. And this key, happens to be a huge powerful axe. Ooo, and the game based still in Albion, with new hero, but you can meet old hero depending on comments made at beginning of game, how he looks. Sea travel aswell, and horses, metamorphesis spells would be cool too. thats all i think :D
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Postby Matt9148 » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:58 pm

[QUOTE=Elias De vere]Firstly a sorry to all for the comments i am about to make.

If you want a long RPG, with HUGE customisation abilities in character selction go play Oblivion. If you want a quick fast paced, cool as hell action RPG play Fable. Fable was perfect as it was just pure fun. It had some of the funniest game moments ever in. So what do i want in Fable 2. Firstly, game difficulty to stay as it is, as it was really good fun the first one even though i only completed the game at normal difficulty. Play as female, BUT only if you finish the game as a male. Jack to return as he was one of the coolest villians well EVER. More pytonesque humour, possible cameo by Knights who say Ni if possible. Game length roughly same, as it was how an action RPG should be. Quick and fun, but extremely memorable. Maybe some cool telekinetic spell, like Darth Vader choke thing, and pick people and fling them around. That would be bloody cool. Finally, what i want to make Fable 2 even better than Fable, even though Fable is one of my favourite games ever, A main quest where to get a mystical key of some sorts, you need to deliver a....SHRUBBERY to the knights who say NI. And this key, happens to be a huge powerful axe. Ooo, and the game based still in Albion, with new hero, but you can meet old hero depending on comments made at beginning of game, how he looks. Sea travel aswell, and horses, metamorphesis spells would be cool too. thats all i think :D [/QUOTE]

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Postby DesR85 » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:24 am

[QUOTE=Elias De vere]
If you want a long RPG, with HUGE customisation abilities in character selction go play Oblivion. If you want a quick fast paced, cool as hell action RPG play Fable. Fable was perfect as it was just pure fun.[/QUOTE]

I tried Oblivion and for some reason, I don't really like the game. Feels queer to me. Coupled with the 1st person view which I really dislike in an RPG.

Still prefer Fable: TLC over Oblivion, if you ask me.
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Postby ni.ck » Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:57 am

Pickpocketing!

i love the theiving on fable, but pickpocketing would be exelent!
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Postby Orfinn » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:13 am

Fable as many sayz is a great game but to tight, linear and short even TLC.

A few of my wishes are as following.

1:Turning into a balverine. It should be a % chance for being infected, around 20-30% maybe? Would be so neat to running around into the woods hunting people and beasts alike. Since white balverines are born in fullmoon, there should be a smaller chance for turning into one. Like 10-15% and for brown balverines 15-20&. And you should only be able to turn into a white one at midnight and if there are fullmoon

2: Be able to sit down for Avos sake, many times I wished to sit town and take a drink with my wife or just lay myself on a bench outside bowerstone.

3:Random creature spawnpoints. Creatures should spawn totally random and independendt of your heros strength. Think about meeting a troll at low levels, a great challenge and the exp high.

4: Able to play as female too. Also be able to be gay, lesbian, hetero and bisexual.

5:Alot more hairstyles, beard, moustaches and be able to dye it. The face and bodyhair should grow dpendant on how you evolve or how you created the characters (select starter face, body shape etc for your starter child) look in the beginning (if possible)

6: Be able to get dirty and be able to wash yourself :)

7:Blood on weapons and clothes, dents in armor, scratches. More different scars on your body now also on arms, legs the rest of your head. Short said you should be able to get scars EVERYWHERE!

8: A FREE enormous world ala Morrowind.

9: Be able to ride on a horse, be part or form different gangs.

10: After what I have heard about Fable 2, you start out with a dog. I hope you will be able to choose which kind of dog you want, and if you dont want any dog or any other pet you should be able to give it away, for later see how your once little puppy have evolved in hands of a kind family or as an attack dog for bandits.

11: Enemies should react to you depending on how you express yourself, if you clad yourself in bandit clothes otherwise enemy bandits would like to join you or offer you an alliance. Also enemies should react to your expressions, some enemies would flee in fear if your roared towards them, giving them the finger would piss em off etc.

12:Get children should be an option, if you are gay or lesbian you could adopt homeless children or deal with no childs at all.

13: Aging should depend on how long you have played, not how much exp you spend.

14: You should be sun tanned or moon paled in real time because of the sun or moon NOT because of your alignment!

15: More house customization and other real life options. Wouldnt it be cool to cook some meat and add some bread, or maybe your wife could serve you some fish'n chips? :P Also you should be able to buy inventory to your house, like a new chair or add new trophy boards to your walls. A repaint job of your house would be neat too. Also a weapon cabinet with a lock on would be great to have if you have small children running around, avoiding them to get hurt on your kick ass collection of weapons :)

16:New expressions. Options to give your friends a hug or shake hands would be very nice, or maybe give a kiss on the lips to your girl/boyfriend.

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Postby Turkey Chaser » Thu Jun 15, 2006 4:41 am

[QUOTE=Orfinn]4: Able to play as female too. Also be able to be gay, lesbian, hetero and bisexual.[/QUOTE]
you can be gay,heteorsexual and bisexual in fable.

something i would like in fable 2 would be to choose the colors of the clothes you buy.

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Postby DesR85 » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:14 am

What do I want in the next Fable?

I want the main character that has a voice. Its been a while since I've seen RPGs with main characters that can talk. Also, add some conversation options that will determine either a bad or good response.

Secondly, heavier weapons should have the ability to do finishing moves like what Project-404 mentioned, using an axe to chop that guy's head for example.

I think some of these ideas I mentioned could be stated already somewhere though I may not be sure. ;)
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10: After what I have heard about Fable 2, you start out with a dog. I hope you will be able to choose which kind of dog you want, and if you dont want any dog or any other pet you should be able to give it away, for later see how your once little puppy have evolved in hands of a kind family or as an attack dog for bandits.
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Sorry to burst your bubble but that dog news was considered a hoax by Gamespot's editors after much investigation a few months back.
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Postby mr_sir » Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:54 am

I agree with you on the voice thing. Or at least have some written lines showing what my character says rather than everyone being able to read his mind lol.

I'd also like the ability to save whenever you want or the ability to fail non-essential quests without being forced to reload. Why should you have to reload just cos a little annoying boy got eaten by a hobbe? lol Surely it would make more sense to just lose a big chunk of your reputation rather than have to reload. It kind of made quests lose the rpg feel. I can understand having to reload if it is a main quest but if its a minor quest its just unnecessary.

Lastly, if they have another Arena then you should be able to compete in it whenever you want, but only go for the main Arena title/competition when you have been nominated.

Edit: oh and make Ressurection Phials so they are rare and hard to find. Do we really need 10+ Resurrection Phials scattered in easy to find locations or so they are sold by most traders?

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Postby Orfinn » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:22 am

The dog thing was just nothing? Oh well dosent matter much, didnt expect it to be true either, but its a cool idea indeed.

Agreed. Its to hard to die in Fable, the res vials should be unique and rare, and if you die the game should end in a cool, natural way. Getting end stats and a epilogue of what you have done, accomplished, maybe someone raises a statue of you in ave or remind you of a evil being or a wandering joke. Also the hero should have a voice, not just standng there looking dumb :p

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Postby Faby » Tue Jun 20, 2006 11:35 am

Does anyone know if Fable 2 will be ported to PC as well?It would be a shame not to port it,not everyone can get Xbox 360's,for example,here in Romania,Xbox 360's will probably never appear.
And a minor estimation about when they'll be finishing it?

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Postby DesR85 » Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:59 pm

[QUOTE=Faby]Does anyone know if Fable 2 will be ported to PC as well?It would be a shame not to port it,not everyone can get Xbox 360's,for example,here in Romania,Xbox 360's will probably never appear.[/QUOTE]
Most probably they will. They did it with Fable: The Lost Chapters, so most likely they will port Fable 2 over to the PC.

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And a minor estimation about when they'll be finishing it?[/QUOTE]
Somewhere around 2007, according to most gaming websites like Gamespot.
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Postby thinking hurts » Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:03 pm

i think that they should add in two weapon fighting and that u can be right handed, left handed, or both

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Postby Rowin » Sat Jun 24, 2006 10:29 am

well i dunno i kinda want to make it so theres a place called the assasin camp so we can use them to raid places and steal and why dont we get shields i mean at least it should be optional also when your done goin throuh the creds then when u go to forest no ones there its just u and traders.when your a kid you look so ugly and i would like to look the same as other kids:laugh:

yea and have two weapons

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Postby Dragoneth » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:50 pm

When you beat the game once as a male / normal hero, have the option to play as a female. Then play as your kid.

Save whenever, and have a warning before your game goes on the fritz...

Play as a Bandit, Assassin, Balverine (white or brown), Hobbe, etc.

Load previous Fable data. If you played TLC and merged with Jack, be the spawn of Jack of Blades.

Have followers who can actually fight!

Enemies and allies formed based on your Tattoos. Like the Kryndon tattoo. Wouldn't it be cool if the old Assassin's joined forces with you if you proved yourself worthy of the tattoo?

Remove individual tattoos, not all of them at once...

Combine aspects of different hairstyles. Like a ponytail, with bangs?

You'd have bags under your eyes from lack of sleep.

Eating a lot of carrots would make you faster, by seeing better.

Dye your hair and facial hair.

Choose eye, hair, skin, and armor colors.
Have a symbol that is on all of your clothing.

New Spells.
Combination/chain-moves.

Blood on armor, body and weapons.
Dents in armor.
Have armor actually DO something besides look cool.
Scars anywhere. If you take a serious hit, start bleeding.

Become tan or bleach white based on time in the sun instead of alignment.
Is it just me or does night last longer than day? Or is it because I'm completely evil?

Higher levels of power based on your fighting. Specialize in melee, then have higher strength attributes. Mages have higher will, and archers have more skills. Combinations split it...

Guns, Shields, and Scythes! Oh my...

Take apart different armor and put it together for new outfits.

Age depending on game time.

And all that was previously mentioned.
Some of it may be too much, but it would be awesome.

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Postby Rowin » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:24 pm

you know guys i have read through alot of the forumand i did not see anything like maybe there could be a war place or like a juwel that turns u to a dragon so heres what i think

1:be able to have a jewel and turn to whatever you want like creatures or a bandit were when u run u hold the sword over ur head and like a guard kinda like what people call u like they call me avatar i could turn to a will master u know guys

2:wars i think we should have like castle wars you know were people from the other team attack ur castle and try to get the flag that would be cool for xbox or pc live or just have it so theres like war of bandits and guards and warriers

so thats what i think :D

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Postby Fabl3 » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:16 pm

Fable2 Needs all this,

I think Fable2 would be a much better game if all the folowing was a possible choice of the player:


1)FREEDOM- My friends and I think the game needs more freedom. The game Fable2 would be a great game to play if u can jump fences and go where ever you would like to go. For example, if you are sick of teleporting and going down the same paths all day and every day, this would be a great change to the game to make the player feel like he/she is more in control of the path that they would like to take.

SOLUTION 1)- To make the "lack of freedom" problem I think it would be reasonable to have the ability to jump fences of towns and go run around in the forest and maybe search for silver keys (this would make finding them harder). I know my friends and I and possibly every one else would love to take their own path of the streets. Fable2 can also contain the ability for the player to roam off topic and maybe rent a boat and take a brake from the story line and make a living. Little things such as opening doors and playing chess with whomever and swimming will help the game grow in popularity for maybe future games. Letting the players be able to jump fences and/or go out of the directed path of the game, would make this grow even faster than Fable: The Lost Chapters.


2)LIFE- When I am playing a game, I like to pretend I am realy the person in the game. I know that if i was realy a hero, that i would get a job, settle down after all is done, marry my true love, get a boat, go on my own quests (i make up on my own), and if not all that, then i will have to go on my own and make a living by getting a job and fighting in the arena for pay. Players should have a little bit more realism in the game.

SOLUTION 2)- I am VERY impressed on the first fables ethics in life. But now that you are that far it is time to finish it off. Add more economy and ability to buy and sell stores, invest in stocks, still have the ability to marry and divorce, buy house, rent boat and maybe even live on it and control it to where you would like to go, ride ferrys across the water to another island (if there is one), also have the ability to move from your house and move to a diffrent town and your wife comes with you, have certain or maybe one bill for each house you have and the town your in depends on the bill price and have to pay it even if you rented it out (your rent money you get will be a profit compared to bills), the ability to set the rent price on your house your rent out and the NPC's can decide if they like the price or not and rent it if so, and maybe even give the Player the ability to kill anyone and anything in the game, also have the ability to run for governer in any town, ability to run your own buisness at home and maybe cut down trees for firewood. Another thing to make the game more like life is to add keys. Keys can be named by you wheather you want it to be called your house key or your rental number one key. the key you have will go in what you got it for and can lock and un-lock whatever door it is made for. The game should be made for the Player to live another virtual life. (again such as, cutting down trees, makeing drinks, hunting, running own store and/or buisness, or riding horses...and so on...)


3)PETS/ANIMALS- The last "2" Fables did not include pets or the ability to ride and raise horses, dogs, or cats. I think having pets and animals included in the game along with the life feature could make the game more free and more heroic or evil (whatever you choose). There also should be wild andimals that you may come encounter with that are friendly or hostile, depending on your actions. To make the game more real there should be animals wondering the free forest makeing a more real background of the game.

SOLUTION 3)- When you are going down the street and people see you they only see you, they do not see your "Noble Steed". If your a hero and you want to be known as god or someone important, then you need something to ride to look important and feel important. Any one can have any horse and any pet. When you have a house pet you can have a dog and/or a cat and even build a stable from cutting down wood for your horse. To make the game more real there should be animals wondering the free forest makeing a more real background of the game. You should also choose to hunt and cook the animals in the game whenever you like.


4)FAMILIES- On the previous Fables you were unable to create kids. This would most definatley allow your name to be carried on throughout the world. There are so many possibilities that can come of this feature such as the solution states.

SOLUTION 4)- In Fable2 you should be able to make your own family. If you are married you can choose to have safe love or unsafe love with your wife. The unsafe love will result in having a baby. You can raise the baby to a kid and to an adult as you like. Whatever the NPC (the baby, kid, or adult you have) sees is what he will be like when he gets older. The kid can respect you to the point he fights for you when he becomes older and can disrespect you to the point he turns against you and tries to kill you and the world. Your kid can grow up and get married and carry on your heroic or evil name. The gender of your kid is at random so whatever you get you have to deal with, just as in real life.


--There is so many other possible suggestions I have and will update this with them. This post is a breif idea of how cool Fable2 should be. This post may seem off the storyline but will help the storyline along and will encourage the Player to play on even though the game is beaten.


-Fabl3

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Postby Slayer_71 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:00 pm

I didn't read but a few of these on this post, so if I repeat any, I'm sorry.

-I think that more Augmentations would be sweet. Go Dungeons and Dragons style and add like, vorpal augmentations.

-Arena was far too easy, it was fun and all, but I did it in less than 15 minutes with pysical shield, mana potions, and beserk. If they could make a new quest that you had to prove yourself in the Arena to a new comer who is trying to out do you, that'd be cool.

-More areas. If they had some more places to go, it'd make things more challenging and more interesting.

-Jumping! It makes me so mad to know that a Golem can jump around and I can't. Even if it were a skill in itself, I'd still be happy.

-More weapons. The axe, sword, bow genres are all too similar. Maybe add a staff of somesort?

-Starting out, it's hard and almost impossible. But the taunting of NPC's make's me want to keep going. After you ge so far into the game, it's easy. If there was a way to make sure that you could keep getting beat down a bit after you're a "god", playing would be so much more fun.

-NPC interactivity is at a low in Fable. You have maybe 20 expressions at most, and they have a select set of lines. If you could maybe choose what you want to say out of a group, or just as much as add more expressions, that's be cool.

-More side items would be nice. Like the dolls, except you can do stuff with them. :laugh:

-The graves were funny, keep them coming :D

-A Jack comeback, or his kin or something. He looked cool, and I loved beating him down. While on the subject, let's have more badasses like him.

-Looting bodies. I'd rather loot the body than look around it for a bag to grab.

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Postby matthewd » Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:53 am

i would really like it to B a bit longer then TLC becouze i finished it in like 9 houres :mad: but u do keep playing it over and over again :D

Dual weapons would b nice for shure and it would b fun if u would see the bow on his back
Becouze if u pull out ur bow it apears out of nothing thats kinda wierd

For the rest of it they may put a chronical aging to
Becouse u start 18 and upgrade urself a few time and ur already good for a carekeeping home for old people
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Postby Turkey Chaser » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:04 pm

cloaks!

always wanted to have a cloak atached to my armour in fable,or anything else!(magical cloaks for magicians,big hard cloaks for plate,etc) ;)