Need help on mages and spells :o

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Need help on mages and spells :o

Postby Fatale » Tue Apr 10, 2001 12:47 am

The one reason I'm not big on mages is the fact that they always get their spells disrupted before they do any damage. They couldn't even survive long enough for me to upgrade them one level ... so knowing that I'm really missing out on the special effects department if I use only warriors, so I'm here to fish for tips from you expert mages :D !

Anyone with survival guides for mages or any tips on spells? Oh, and I'd really like to know how you could make them cast a devastating spell without getting disrupted, and also not injuring fellow party members while at it (I tried making my mage cast spells far away from the party, but the poor thing got ambushed by monsters almost instantaneously).

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Postby Cobbler Orcbreaker » Tue Apr 10, 2001 5:15 am

All I can suggest is take your fighters, put them up front and guard the mages. Since I dont play mages I don't know how to stop them from hurting their own comrades.

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Postby A Hairless Dwarf?? » Tue Apr 10, 2001 2:10 pm

Also, In HoW theres an amzing amulet later on in the game..Increase all damage you dish out with fire, and lowers your casting Times! :p
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Postby Kayless » Tue Apr 10, 2001 6:17 pm

Just keep your mage away from the front line until you get such protective magics as Blur, Mirror Image, Minor Globe of Invulnerability, and especially Stoneskin. A hasted wizard loaded up with these defenses can ‘mage-bomb’ (my term for running the wizard ahead of your party and attracting all the enemies in the area before casting multiple area effect spells like Sunfire and Malavon’s Rage). Your warriors can then clean up whatever survives (I took out 15 Umber Hulks and 5 minotaurs once using the mage-bomb technique, without the assistance of my warriors ;) ).
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Postby patroklos » Mon Apr 23, 2001 6:52 pm

when you are refering to mages been disrupted i guess you mean the early stages of the game, right? Well, as i see it you needn't start with a mage, start with a human fighter instead, then dual him to a mage when he has achieved mastery in a certain weapon (preaferably a ranged one, 3 slots). In the begining as a mage you don't acquire any "devastating" spells and those you get don't help much in a fight.

Conclusion? Build up your health and weap. mastery as a fighter, then dual to a mage and at least later in the game you'll never sweat about low health and spell disruption.

I must warn you, though. The transition WILL be dificult, so have your tanks keep you safe.

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Postby Fatale » Mon Apr 23, 2001 8:15 pm

Fiddler, you couldn't have read my mind any better ;) I tend to avoid dual-classing cos I'm more for pure power, but it looks like mages don't work that way ...

I have a level 26 pure human fighter who has 5 slots in long swords and another 5 slots in maces. Can I still dual to mage? What'd happen to the fighter if I do?

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Postby Kayless » Wed Apr 25, 2001 2:47 am

Originally posted by Fatale:
<STRONG>I tend to avoid dual-classing cos I'm more for pure power, but it looks like mages don't work that way ...

I have a level 26 pure human fighter who has 5 slots in long swords and another 5 slots in maces. Can I still dual to mage? What'd happen to the fighter if I do?</STRONG>


You can only dual class to a mage if your fighter’s INT is high enough. After you dual you’ll lose ability to wear armor and utilize non-mage weapons until you’ve surpassed your old fighter level with the new mage one. (It’ll take quite a while if your fighter is level 26) My recommendation is to just go with a pure mage and follow the guidelines set here and on the other guide pages. A well-protected mage is a formidable thing. ;) Right Elminster?
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