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Old 10-13-2009, 02:48 AM
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Thanks Wesp5 for the reply, may you write there what are the stats differences between basic and plus?
You can't really compare the stats, because with basic you get better claws while with plus you get higher stats. But I tweaked the stat increase so that in battle the same damage is done.
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Old 10-13-2009, 06:46 AM
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So then there is no real cap to an attribute, where, say, the better set of claws and ten in unarmed would do more damage than the weaker claws and twenty points in unarmed?
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Old 10-13-2009, 07:48 AM
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So then there is no real cap to an attribute, where, say, the better set of claws and ten in unarmed would do more damage than the weaker claws and twenty points in unarmed?
To avoid the stat caps you get strength and unarmed bonuses both when using the weaker claws.
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Old 10-13-2009, 01:56 PM
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Thanks for answering.

How much is added to strength and unarmed Do you get any bonuses to brawl?

Is there still a point in spending experience to increase strength for a Protean oriented Ganrgrel?
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Old 10-14-2009, 02:43 AM
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How much is added to strength and unarmed Do you get any bonuses to brawl?
You get strength +4 on Protean 4 and then brawl +8 on Protean 5.

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I don't really know but I think strength caps at 15 or something so every additional point still counts.
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Old 10-14-2009, 10:06 AM
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An eight point bonus to brawl? Does it cap at fifteen as well? Since with such a big bonus, it would seem pointless to increase Brawl, unless you meant a bonus to the Unarmed skill, which makes me wonder if that one has a cap also.

Also, do you have any opinion on Gangrel being the only clan that can get a level five Discipline for free?
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Old 10-15-2009, 03:04 AM
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Since with such a big bonus, it would seem pointless to increase Brawl, unless you meant a bonus to the Unarmed skill, which makes me wonder if that one has a cap also.
If I remember correctly the feat is upgraded, not the skill, to avoid the cap.

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What do you mean by this?
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Old 10-15-2009, 07:30 AM
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When you play a Gangrel, you can get the fifth level Animalism discipline for free when you talk to Beckett. No other clan has such an "expensive" gift. That's not mentioning that he gives clanmates the second level of Protean when you first meet him. I know that the Gangrel would be fine even without this bonus, but I'm wondering if you have any opinnion on this matter and your thoughts on the other clans not having such an opportunity.
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Old 10-15-2009, 10:31 AM
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When you play a Gangrel, you can get the fifth level Animalism discipline for free when you talk to Beckett.
Looking at the dlg file Beckett should bump either animalism or protean or fortitude but only if they are below 3.
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Old 10-15-2009, 12:38 PM
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I was under the impression that there were two instances of the skill increase. He gives you up to Protean 2 after the warehouse and can give you either (a maximum of) Fortitude 3 OR Animalism 5 somewhere near (or after) the Italian Dinner mission.
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Old 10-16-2009, 02:31 AM
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He gives you up to Protean 2 after the warehouse and can give you either (a maximum of) Fortitude 3 OR Animalism 5 somewhere near (or after) the Italian Dinner mission.
No. The first one is an old rumour only. You can ask him about Protean after the warehouse but he will not upgrade it. The second time he will only raise disciplines that are below 3.

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Old 10-16-2009, 06:34 AM
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I see. Thanks for clearing that up.
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