In Hordes of the Underdark, Chapter 2, the Beholder Caves have a hole that negates all magic, magical items, and potions. Playing as a cleric, I had to cheat to get through the hole. My Lore and Spellcraft were too low to access the door to the west, and I could not get through, or around, the spiders and the big spider (Bebilith ?). Now I'm just starting HOTU with a level 15 multiclass character, (fighter 8 / rogue 6 / shadowdancer 1) and I really do not want to cheat again. So I have some questions: 1) How high does my Lore, or Spellcraft, need to be to open the door? 2) Will I be able to get to the obelisk area without using the door? My character is pretty good with a bow; so I'm hoping I might be able to get through the spiders by using a bow and the special Shadowdancer skill, Hide in Plain Sight. Or will I have to cheat again?