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Discussion in 'Fallout Series' started by arsiwash, Apr 4, 2011.
My votes goes to fallout 3...
Exactly in their order..
The first is the first I've played and the first I've liked..
The second a bit less, only because came after first (that had best storyline and endgame).
The third is a fantastic game in my opinion, with some lacks, naturally, but if we had more game like this..come after the first two only because is an action game for me more than a RpG..
New Vegas is fantastic, too..same problems of the third but a funny storyline..
There's a lot of great ideas in Fallout 3, but it lost the spirit of fallout, which is that even if the world is destroyed, there will always be people fighting over it. In F3, few people have any ambitions, fewer still have selfish ambitions, and I don't think anyone in the entire game is looking for power. It's actually kind of depressing to see the world so stagnant.
FO2 > FO1 >>> NV >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FO3
Originals were the best, have to give a slight edge to 2 over 1, NV was what the original beta version of FO3 should've been, and FO3 was merely a half-arsed FPS hiking simulator with irrelavent RPG elements thrown in to dupe a larger market base-- i.e. not really Fallout.
New Vegas was my favourite followed closely by the second. New Vegas managed to put some of the feel of the old Fallout games back into the series.
I think Fallout 3 is great if one views it as a different franchise. I enjoyed them all, but going from the first two to the third was sort of like watching a movie based on a book. Sometimes a movie is a lot more enjoyable if I can forget that there was a book first.
I voted fallout 2. I also liked 1 very much but with the restoration mod installed 2 is just much better. I only played fallout 2 without the restoration mod once and I didn't like it as much as 1 back then because there was a lot on content missing (never finding Suliks sister comes to mind). I also played fallout 3 and don't really like it. picking up more inventory than you can carry and then having to walk everywhere is something i didn't like. In 1 & 2 you simply couldn't pick up more wich meant you sometimes had to choose between what you wanted to keep. also getting a perk per level in 3 meant that I spent less time thinking about wich ones I took wich may be plus for some players but when I play an rpg I want to think about what path i take my character down. That's something that just didn't happen for me in 3. In that way fallout tactics felt more like an rpg than fallout 3 to me. Goddammit! talking about these games got me in the mood to boot them up again where is my fallout anthology box?
i must be the weird one here but i like Fallout Tatics lol. I like playing Fallout 1,2 with a retard char but hell, the only game that has ever make me bang my head in the wall was Fallout Tatics due to its brutal difficulty and tatical play. Good game!
Fallout NV for me, although I have enjoyed all of them. NV is best for NPC companions. Fallout 1 also excellent, and Fallout 2 would have been better apart from all the bugs (disappearing motor cars etc).
Fallout 2 overall. Fallout 1 had a superior story but the 2nd one beats it almost everywhere else, imo. Tactics felt great for what it was (can't beat JA2 though); Fallout 3 had some great ideas but apparently everything fell apart at some point; FNV was pretty good.
On another note, if anything Bethesda has done since Oblivion indicates how the next Fallout game would end, it almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter.
1 was very good, 2 was great. Best sound track I've ever listened to on any game.
The FO2 soundtrack is indeed understated.
Well I've played FNV extensively now and overall I still think it wasn't as good as F3.
I never had much problem with stability with F3, apart from those I caused myself by tinkering with the CS. FNV on the other hand I've found to be very unstable, without my help. This was the same on both computers I played on, and my nephew reported the same problem. How much of that is down to the game itself, and how much down to Steam I don't know, but when I had problems with it refusing to load saved games I eventually found out that if I closed and restarted Steam the problem got sorted.
I stated earlier that the writing was worse than F3, maybe a bit harsh, but I definitely didn't find it better. The alternate paths were I thought a bit of a sham, as they mostly involved the same quest lines but from a slightly different angle. Maybe the fact I couldn't identify with any of the three factions available has a lot to do with it. The Legion I found to be totally unplayable, evil taken to a ridiculous extreme, Nazis with attitude; maybe because of my age there was no way I could stick with them for long.
The NCR on the other hand I thought were just a bunch of fascist imperialists with very few redeeming qualities, and House came across as an insane capitalist megalomaniac. Which left me with the obvious choice of taking over myself; which I have to say wasn't too difficult to play. In fact once I got used to the system I found the game lacked any challenge. Getting bounced early in the game by Legion Assassins was a challenge at first, but as I won and immediately acquired the insanely powerful Thermic Lance, it was effecgtively game over from that point.
My other major problem with the game was the pervasive invisible walls, they are everywhere and completely nullify the concept of open, andbox gaming.
Overall I'd give the game 6/10 as opposed to F3 which, in retrospect, I'd give 6.5.
F3 is just the same re-hashed boring-to-tears Bethesda story. Cardboard characters, dead-feeling quests, and F3 set the bar for the poor combat system in the new FO. FNV had to deal with that. FNV at least managed to make it slightly less "Go VATS & win."
I agree on House & the Legion, but I found the NCR actually very realistic, in a real-politik sense. Pretty much illustrates how "true" democracy is the least of the evils you can (realistically) have as a government form.
Tactics though it's not on the list.
True. with the Anti-Matter rifle and Gauss Gun I hardly ever used VATS, but that was because at range I founf VATS absolutely useless.
Oh so very sadly true!
Actually, it's "Anti-Materiel" Rifle, as in "to be used against (military) matériel", i.e. vehicle & other hardware.
I read "Anti-Matter" Rifle too at first.
I'm pretty sure that if my weapon usage was to be calculated the gun I have used the most would be the MF Hyperbreeder Alpha. Decent DPS, is single handed so you move faster, and crucially, doesn't need ammo. For close action the Thermic Lance takes some beating though.