What would you like to see in an Expansion?

[Espodude]

If there ever is going to be one, what would you want in it? I think it would be cool to add a small multiplayer lan server thing, were you and 1 lan computer can play together in the same game. Second opening new lands, like Valenwood and where the Argonian live, the Black Marsh? i forgot the name. Well yea thats just some of the things i want in a expansion, what about you?

[Abuse]

improved combat.

I've fallen in love with Mount & Blade combat; if combat in Oblivion were to play like that, it'd simply be the best game ever made.

[yrthwyndandfyre]

Originally Posted by Abuse

improved combat.

I've fallen in love with Mount & Blade combat; if combat in Oblivion were to play like that, it'd simply be the best game ever made.

Yes, I can certainly see the attraction, but that type of combat is more amenable to FPS types of games, like Jedi Academy. In an RPG like Oblivion, the actual act of combat is more frequently aim-hit-repeat, with few opportunities for elegant tactical maneuvering. The specifics of combat are left up to the program, not the player. VTMB makes a fairly good shot at a hybrid fighting style that incorporates both types of control, but if you've played that and a FPS like JA, then you know that in VTMB, even with a blade, it's pretty much flailing about whereas in JA, you can actually specifically elect to decapitate an opponent with a specific move. The control mechanism is much tighter, and relies much more heavily on the skill of the player than the game engine.

In Oblivion, you can't do that, and frankly, I doubt that the game engine even supports it. Consequently, I doubt that it is even possible in a mod or add-on. RPGs tend to be point and shoot. That's not good or bad, it's just in the nature of RPGs. Maybe someday...

At least it's better now than it used to be, when in an RPG you would simply elect to attack and from there on in the computer had control until you won or lost. Maybe someday we'll come to the best of both worlds, where you can have an RPG with a true FPS combat interface.

[Mr. Arrow]

i wish you there would be another quest instead of the main one. Everyone will disagree with me but after about 2 oblivion gates i found the main quest quite...
unsatisfying. i wish they would include black marsh and have a quest like assasinate the argonian emporer or something like that.

[Sildayin]

yes a new land would be great... but yea we need to be able to attack while being mounted...it shouldnt' be that hard...just add a horse "battle horse" which is the only horse you can attack while mounted...shouldn't be too hard at all, it beats going back and recoding or whatever it takes. new race, more items, more mobs to kill, MORE quests, new zones, everything an expansion is made of i want it :P dragons should be a priority...a land of dragons deep within somewhere...if they make an expansion like the old EverQuest Ruins of Kunark. I would bow down to Bethesda.

[pitdog]

I'd like to see another land also. I've always wanted to see the Argonian homeland of Blackmarsh, or even the Altmer homeland of Summerset Isle. I'd love to be able to visit my characters homeland and maybe meet his old family!

[Espodude]

You guys think they'll make an expansion?

[yrthwyndandfyre]

Originally Posted by Espodude

You guys think they'll make an expansion?

Of course they'll make an expansion. Or maybe two or three. A game this popular gets expanded ipso facto. Bethesda's been in this game for a long time, and they know which side of their toast is buttered.

[Espodude]

I hope they do, ill get it the first day it comes out.

[Fljotsdale]

Originally Posted by Mr. Arrow

i wish you there would be another quest instead of the main one. Everyone will disagree with me but after about 2 oblivion gates i found the main quest quite...
unsatisfying. i wish they would include black marsh and have a quest like assasinate the argonian emporer or something like that.

I agree with you! I really find the Main Quest a bit of a bore. In fact, I've stopped doing it. I just deliver the Amulet and then forget it.

I agree about Black Marsh and the other provinces in future expansions - or future Elder Scrolls games - as well.

And personally I'd like to get shot of the whole Dark Brotherhood thing. I'll never play that guild. It's nasty.

[qizatch]

Originally Posted by yrthwyndandfyre

At least it's better now than it used to be, when in an RPG you would simply elect to attack and from there on in the computer had control until you won or lost. Maybe someday we'll come to the best of both worlds, where you can have an RPG with a true FPS combat interface.

I hope that day never comes. I find that Oblivion has gone as far as an RPG ever should towards FPS. An RPG is about what your character can do, not what you are able to do. Just implementing OOC lock picking is bad enough. I actually prefer a 'select target-choose action' interface as it is in WoW.

Things I'd like to see include:
1. Ability to name your saved games
2. Modified levelling scheme so you can actually put your major skills as majors, not minors...
3. Multiple solutions for quests
4. Extended dialogue replacing the boast/joke/intimidate wheel

[yrthwyndandfyre]

Originally Posted by qizatch

I hope that day never comes. I find that Oblivion has gone as far as an RPG ever should towards FPS. An RPG is about what your character can do, not what you are able to do. Just implementing OOC lock picking is bad enough. I actually prefer a 'select target-choose action' interface as it is in WoW.

Ah, the voice of consent. True enough, though. The FPS interface does have some elements of 'twitch' play that a lot of people don't buy into. I once videotaped my left hand during a round of "The Matrix", and my left hand looked for all the world like an insane spider on drugs dancing to 'machine rock'. I've always been a big fan of it, but OTOH, my fingers haven't been getting any more nimble with the years, so it's getting more difficult for me, too.

The nice thing, though, is that elements like that can be 'browned out'. They can be established technologically so that the young and nimble players can get their freak on, and then optionally turned off, so that people who no longer have the reflexes or those that simply don't go for that kind of thing can optionally turn them off and go for the more classical RPG gaming style.

Me? Sue me. Geek show. I love the micromotor skill challenges. The arthritis is starting to be a bore, though...

[Luis Antonio]

Boys, this has happened mildly so far. Lets avoid spam in this thread, as in others. Speculation is accepted but on topic. Keep posting

[yrthwyndandfyre]

Originally Posted by Luis Antonio

Boys, this has happened mildly so far. Lets avoid spam in this thread, as in others. Speculation is accepted but on topic. Keep posting

Not to put too fine a point on it, Luis, but we are discussing expansions, yes?

Precisely what do you qualify as 'spam'?

Without prejudice, you appear to be a bit of a head-banger in the realm of moderators. That would be power-mad. I've overlooked it for some time, but slamming on *this*? Really? You can't be serious.

I'll be lodging a complaint with Buck Satan. About you. Specifically. Nobody is above the law. Not even moderators.

[Luis Antonio]

I wasnt clear enough:

You guys think they'll make an expansion?

I hope they do, ill get it the first day it comes out.

This is what I mean. The discussion is pretty OK so far,with speculation, I just dont want it to derail into offtopic posts, and "OMG, kewl, I want this expansion so bad".

That's it. Just a warning. It is a very good thread, and I wouldnt like to see it closed because of off topic posts.