Grand soul gem

[Lord Spawn]

1. I tried to capture bandits but azura's star wasnt enough...thats why I asked it...
2. I knew about the University (not the archmages tower tho .. never been there), but it seems I CANT enchant an ARMOR with more than ONE effect.
My Q was about armors and not weapons.

thanks anyway

[Belthan]

Originally Posted by Ghost Dragon

I don't think you can make black soul gems. I tried to use the alter at the dark fissure and nothing happened so... You can soul trap a humanoid like a bandit and you won't need a black soul gem.

Some humanoid souls like goblins, ogres, humanoid daedra, etc. will fit in regular soul gems (of the appropriate size, e.g. regular goblin soul will fit in common soul gem, but goblin warlord soul will only fit in grand soul gem). But for humans, argonians, khajiit, and elves (all kinds), you can only use a black soul gem.

Making black soul gems (spoilers) The altars at Dark Fissure and Ft. Isturis definitely can be used to convert a grand soul gem into a black soul gem, but they only work one night of the week between sundown and midnight. On the "magic night", a light shines down from the sky on the altar, but it's a pretty subtle effect - hard to see if it's cloudy, even harder to see if it's raining. That night is different for every game, so you have to find it by trial and error. Go to the altar around 9:00 PM, try it, and if it doesn't work wait 24 hours. Repeat until you find out what night it is. Then you can always go back on that night.

[Lord Spawn]

thx the info but i just started a new game, so no grand soul gems for a while... but I WILL definately try it

EDIT:
ohh!!! what about the enchants on armor? I still dont know how to make more than one effect on ONE piece of armor

[Ghost Dragon]

Depends on what kind of enchantment you use. What kind of enchantment do you want?

[Lord Spawn]

I usually use Azura's star (with grand souls). It gives me the bigest charge but I can enchant only one effcet on one piece.

EXAMPLE:
I have a Blades Curiass. I go to enchant, and I choose SHIELD (for example).
I also choose Azuras star(/w grand soul).----> I get 10% shield effect (if I remember correctly), and then I CANT choose another effect,(so I cant have both a shield effect and a chameleon effect), not like Morrowind where I could.

so?

[Ghost Dragon]

To get the chamelon and sheild effect, you must have the soul gem that has the sheild and chamelon effect together or you cannot make the item that way.

[Ghost Dragon]

If you use the enchanting alter in the arcane university who can chose the enchantments with almost ever soul gem i think. but it will cost a good 2000 gold or somthing around that.

[Lord Spawn]

Originally Posted by Ghost Dragon

To get the chamelon and sheild effect, you must have the soul gem that has the sheild and chamelon effect together or you cannot make the item that way.

OK, it seems I cant really understand what You say (probably my poor English)
What do you mean:
'the soul gem that has the sheild and chamelon effect'

I tought that soul gems do not has effects but charge, and 'I tell them what I want from them'

about the 07:31 PM post.... well I dont understand a word of it.... lol
could you explain??

[Siberys]

>>>>To get the chamelon and sheild effect, you must have the soul gem that has the sheild and chamelon effect together or you cannot make the item that way.


Umm, since when do soul gems have specific spells you can create within them on armor and weapons? Elder Scrolls 3 and 4 don't do that. Granted, the higher the soul gem the higher the effect, but any soul gem will give chameleon to an armor so long as you have the spell (and possibly a mod with it, dunno how it works really).

[Lord Spawn]

Nice Page You Have There. :d

[Ghost Dragon]

I mean like a Sigil Stone for an example... They come with enchantments like sheild and i don't know about chamleon but if you go looking for random oblivion gates and take the sigil stones im sure your probly find one if your luck enough. Once you find one ( if there is one) and can use it on weapons and armour and TA-DAH! sheild and chamelon

and i have bad english to...

[Lord Spawn]

Sigil Stones have One armor/constant and one weapon/strike effect.I can use them on one unenchanted armor, but that still only one effect. I cant use them on things that are already enchanted ...

Original Question: how can ONE piece of armor have TWO(or more) effects