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08-01-2003, 02:33 PM
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| | Rebels in Mages Guild: Bug or Purpose? I am currently both arch-mage of Mages Guild, and archmagister of House Telvanni. After being named as official archmagister, I went back to Balmoras guildhall, and everyones dispositon towards me is 0/100, and it canīt be raised by any means. Also same in Vivecīs guild. Sandith Mora, Aldīruhn, and Caldera are still original 100/100. It would make sense, since both Balmoras guild mistress, and Trebonius both dislike Telvannis, but Skink and Edwinna supported the player, and Calderas people seem neutral. Anyhoo. Others with similar experiences? 
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08-01-2003, 07:45 PM
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| | | Sounds like a bug to me
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08-01-2003, 10:55 PM
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| | | Sounds like a bug. I've become both archmagister and archmage without such a large drop in disposition.
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There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure... What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. | 
08-01-2003, 11:37 PM
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| | Well, I loaded few plug-ins after I had already started, so it might be the problem? And I have completed the main quest, and donīt want to start again just yet. Tribunal and Bloodmoon uncompleted, so Iīll just suck it up, and keep going. After all, this (possible) bug gives the play a bit more roleplaying aspects. 
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"Brains before swords, brains before swords........Swords before brains."
-Groo the Wanderer-
Second place winner is the first loser.
When all my enemies are dead, who is there left to fear?
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08-02-2003, 12:37 AM
|  | Exalted Member | | Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Abuīs Manor AldīRuhn
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| | Ok, might have figured it out. Every time you boost your personality, and speak to someone, you get better reaction (obvious). But with personality 765 (tested with potions), the effects still show at 0-100 range. After the effect wears off, and you speak again to same person, her/his reaction gets the massive drop, even with faction/personality original/ status bonuses. The disposition can be gotten back with bribery, and maybe with good admire (not tested). Try with Mask of Clavicus Vile. Speak to someone with disposition 100 to you, even without mask, with mask on, then take it off and speak again. There should be disposition drop.  Back to testing, and bribing my mages back in line. 
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"Brains before swords, brains before swords........Swords before brains."
-Groo the Wanderer-
Second place winner is the first loser.
When all my enemies are dead, who is there left to fear?
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08-02-2003, 01:30 AM
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| | | Yea, I've noticed that, which is why I refuse to use any personality-enhancing items.
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There's nothing a little poison couldn't cure... What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, ... to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if he people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. | 
08-02-2003, 01:47 AM
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| | Yeah kiddies, let this be a lesson to all of you, and donīt do like your old uncle Stray did. Cost me a pretty penny to everyones disp. back to normal. 
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"Brains before swords, brains before swords........Swords before brains."
-Groo the Wanderer-
Second place winner is the first loser.
When all my enemies are dead, who is there left to fear?
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08-02-2003, 07:22 AM
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| | Quote: Originally posted by Straydog Yeah kiddies, let this be a lesson to all of you, and donīt do like your old uncle Stray did. Cost me a pretty penny to everyones disp. back to normal. | What's money for anyway, heh heh. Not only can't you take the real stuff with you, but you can't even imagine taking this with you. 
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