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05-20-2007, 02:21 PM
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| | | Constant Effect Bug - CE waterwalk won't go away upon item removal I know there is a bug where if you repair bound items they don't go away, I've experienced this myself.
But... I've never heard of this..
I made my character a Telvanni Celaphopod (sp?) helm with constant effect water walking and light...
I suddenly realised a little while ago that these effects are not going away, even when I remove the helm. While having CE light is not a huge problem, since I can just adjust my video settings, I'd really like to get rid of the CE waterwalking since I will need to go diving on at least two occasions during the Bloodmoon MQ.
And I *really* *really* do not want to have to do any reinstalls or starting over. I like this character *sniff*
OK, I could probably use coc to teleport into said underwater locations but I'd prefer to not do that. Besides, I don't like not being able to dive if the urge strikes.
I have tried casting dispel on myself, but that does nothing...
A look around Google suggested that the cheat code for constant effect waterwalk is: se****erwalking 1, so I'm wondering if I type in se****ererwalking 0, if that will help?
Or, in order to remove a bound item, you can do something like removeitem bound_longbow 1... so maybe if I did something similar?
If anyone has any suggestions as to how I can fix this with the aid of the console or construction set, I'd be much obliged
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05-20-2007, 02:33 PM
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| | | Does the effect still appear in the lower corner of the screen?
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05-20-2007, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Magelord648 Does the effect still appear in the lower corner of the screen? | Yes it does, even though the helm isn't even any longer in my inventory.
It's exactly like the bound item bug I mentioned above...
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05-20-2007, 02:54 PM
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| | And after you found your character...
Had a like problem in one of my previous games, only with it was with levitation and bound item. Sadly I had to go back to a previous save..
One could always start a "new" character...
I know how you hate that 
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05-20-2007, 02:55 PM
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| | | Have you got an old save?
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05-20-2007, 02:59 PM
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| | I *do* have an older save, and I suppose I would not be going back too far, but I was hoping to avoid it.
Ah well, if need be, I will end up doing exactly that, assuming the same problem hasn't occurred in that game as well *sigh*
@Bluesky... yeah....
I *truly* do not want to start over. I mean, would you believe that I actually created a dremora character (new mod, see link thread) just out of curiosity and was not tempted to save her? 
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05-20-2007, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dragon wench sewatererwalking 0 | Try that. Add the T in though. (Between the E & W)
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05-20-2007, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Magelord648 Try that. Add the T in though. (Between the E & W) | Just tried it... Didn't work.
Then I tried putting a 1 after the command instead of a 0 to see if I could somehow trigger it to reset, but no joy there either.
I also found out that my most recent backup game is affected by the same problem, though one further back than that (by quite a ways) seems fine.
Oh well, at least I have one save game that will work... I'll have to retrace my steps a fair amount, but not *too* *too* horribly, and it's better than starting over.
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05-20-2007, 03:29 PM
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| |  Remember the First Rule of Gaming, at least in this household:
We've all learned this the hard way and sadly sometimes forget it.
Save and Save Often...
In my present game have at least 20 saves...
Saved games named for each town, updated on each visit, and keep two backup saves that I leapfrog when doing quests or exploring.
Also save before opening any chest or door, or right before dialogue options, this is so I can go back if the conversation doesn't work out well. 
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05-20-2007, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueSky  Remember the First Rule of Gaming, at least in this household:
We've all learned this the hard way and sadly sometimes forget it.
Save and Save Often...
In my present game have at least 20 saves...
Saved games named for each town, updated on each visit, and keep two backup saves that I leapfrog when doing quests or exploring.
Also save before opening any chest or door, or right before dialogue options, this is so I can go back if the conversation doesn't work out well.  | See, I do that. Usually, though, two or three backup saves work fine however...
Ah well, I also recently encountered an odd bug where the temple thought I had let somebody die rather than healing them of Swamp Fever..
So, on the plus side, hopefully I'll be able to resolve that little issue too.
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05-20-2007, 03:54 PM
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| | | I've tried everything I could think of, RemoveEffects sEffec****erwalking should work, but when I tried it the text turned blue, no error message, but the water walking wouldn't go away. Same result with RemoveSpellEffects "Water Walking" and Player->se****erWalking 0..
I hope your save was before using the helmet.
PS The parser is a bit over enthusiastic!
Last edited by galraen; 05-20-2007 at 03:56 PM.
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05-20-2007, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by galraen I've tried everything I could think of, RemoveEffects sEffec****erwalking should work, but when I tried it the text turned blue, no error message, but the water walking wouldn't go away. Same result with RemoveSpellEffects "Water Walking" and Player->se****erWalking 0..
I hope your save was before using the helmet.
PS The parser is a bit over enthusiastic! | I have used the helmet for a long time, so no.. I don't think I have a save from before then. But, it occurs to me that something I did recently may have triggered the issue. I added a new companion, and you know how newer companion mods will ensure the NPC casts levitate, water walk etc. on themselves when you do?
I have the sneaking suspicion it has something to do with this, because everything was fine beforehand...
Thank you for all the experiments though, I appreciate it. And yes, I rolled my eyes at the filter too. Most of the time it is pretty good, but that's a tad excessive 
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05-20-2007, 04:31 PM
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| | | Try taking a potion or casting a spell on yourself that might reset it.
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05-20-2007, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Magelord648 Try taking a potion or casting a spell on yourself that might reset it. | You mean a water(w)alking spell/potion?
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05-20-2007, 10:54 PM
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| | | Try dispell !00% on self.
(I got CE shield same bug)
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