Scather is BUGGED !

[Mulligan]

Hi everyone,

I have some bad news about Scather, the bonus sword you'll get for rescuing Prince Thrommel.

1):
It's supposed to be a Bastard Sword, but if you play without the Co8 fan patch and/or Atari's official patch it is a Greatsword.

2):
In it's description it say's it's the identical twin of Fragarac, and is supposed to be both Holy and Chaotic. It's NOT HOLY !!! Holy is supposed to deal 2d6 dmg extra vs all Evil foes, Chaotic does the same vs Lawful ones. I haven't checked the Chaos part yet, not many lawful opponents, but by examining the combat info i saw that there's no Holy damage. Bummer.


Onwards, With the Frag

[Raumoheru]

yea i have noticed that it does not do as much damage as the fragarach

[Mulligan]

Had to answer myself, as i just fixed Scather successfully.

What to do is :
In line 4016, after the word Fragarach hit tab 3 times then delete until the 2 zeros are gone.

Now copy info from line 4017, after the word Fragarach, from where it says "Weapon Chaotic 0 0" etc. and paste into line 4016 (--- 3 TAB's --- exactly) after Fragarach.

The Document now drops one line (increases in size) Now, place the cursor after last 0 in line 4016 and hit delete button until the document pops up one line again. Now the .tab file is the same size again and Scather is Holy & Chaotic, like it's twin.

Hope this helps

[Greywulf]

Mull,

Can't get it to work.
In fact, any changes I make to the protos.tab file changes it's size and thereby prevents the game from loading.

"In line 4016, after the word Fragarach hit tab 3 times then delete until the 2 zeros are gone.

"Now copy info from line 4017, after the word Fragarach, from where it says "Weapon Chaotic 0 0" etc. and paste into line 4016 (--- 3 TAB's --- exactly) after Fragarach.

"The Document now drops one line (increases in size) Now, place the cursor after last 0 in line 4016 and hit delete button until the document pops up one line again. Now the .tab file is the same size again and Scather is Holy & Chaotic, like it's twin."

Did exactly as you said... or so I think:

1. When you say to copy, "Weapon Chaotic 0 0 etc.," exactly how much am I copying?

2. When I click delete until the "document pops up one line again," do you mean click delete until "4017" pops up?

Could you post the exact lines as they used to appear and as they should appear?

Also, why does changing ability scores prevent my game from loading? What am I doing wrong? All I'd do is change a 10 to an 18 or such. I don't see how you were able to change scores, but I am not.

No matter what I do, the file size increases from 967 KB to 969 KB - even the aforementioned stat editing. What gives?

Thanks.



P.S.: even the Meleny single-stat change bumps the file size for me - how did you circumvent this?

[silverdragon72]

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are you using wordpad to open the protus.tab ?

if so use notepad or an other editor !


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[Greywulf]

I'm using Notepad.

[silverdragon72]

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no idea then...

...I changed it that way without any problem


EDIT: the "holy 0 0" has to be in the same position as in the line below - then you have to delete some tabs that there is no extra line between 4016 and 4017...


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[Mulligan]

Sure, i'ii try to walk you through it

First of all, use Notepad !

The protos.tab file is 968k in my computer, and when i edit something like Melenys WIS i go to her 14, delete the 4 and insert 8. This worked for me and the filesize really shouldn't change by this method. If you use Wordpad or other editors the filesize always seem to change, even when no editing is done !?

Now, for Fragarach and Scather, this answer will be long


First, how line 4016 looks in Notepad, might look different here:

4016 obj_t_weapon 4016 size_medium mat_metal 2 10161 OIF_IS_MAGICAL 6 1600000 394 20167 OIF_WEAR_WEAPON_PRIMARY OIF_WEAR_WEAPON_SECONDARYOIF_WEAR_WEAPON_PRIMARY D20DT_SLASHING 1d10 bastard_sword 19 Fragarach 0 0

As you see, the line 4016 is full of emty space and don't end until line 4017 begins.

Line 4017 looks like this :

4017 obj_t_weapon 2201 4017 size_medium mat_metal 2 10158 OIF_IS_MAGICALOIF_NO_NPC_PICKUP 6 9000000 391 20167 OIF_WEAR_WEAPON_PRIMARY OIF_WEAR_WEAPON_SECONDARYOIF_WEAR_WEAPON_PRIMARY D20DT_SLASHING 1d10 bastard_sword 19 Fragarach Weapon Chaotic 0 0 Weapon Holy 0 0

The line 4016 part

Fragarach 0 0

Has to change to this

Fragarach Weapon Chaotic 0 0 Weapon Holy 0 0

Now, in line 4017, if you place your cursor after the last letter in "Fragarach" and hit the "right arrow" on your keyboard, the cursor will move in 3 tabulator jumps and be left of the W in "Weapon"

This is the amount of empty space that MUST be between "Fragarach" and "Weapon" in line 4016, 3 tabs or R. arrows.

So in line 4016 put the cursor after fragarach and delete until the 2 zeros are gone, then hit right-arrow 3 times. This is the spot you'll want to paste info from line 4017 into.

In line 4017 mark all info from "Weapon" to the last "zero"

Weapon Chaotic 0 0 Weapon Holy 0 0

And paste it into line 4016 "3 tabs" after "Fragarach"

Now the document is likely to increase in size, since we've put more info in line 4016. Scroll your document so you see both line 4016 & 4017. Or you can save first to see if the filesize increased. If it did you have to "remove" a line of empty space until 4017 pops up one line again. Save and check filesize again, it must be 968 k.

Of course, have lots of copies of the file in other dirs., so you can start fresh or make the game load again.

I know this explanation is a bit messy and confusing, but i don't know how else to explain it.

BTW, the info above does look different here than it does in Notepad, but in a maximized Notepad you should see the line pop up and down.

Hope this helps

As Always