Fragarach and Scather

[Raumoheru]

wow i just tried that thing to manipulate Prince Thromel to get both

alls i gotta say is.....wow

a solo wizard duel weilding these swords that never miss

dont even need weapon focus or two weapon fighting or any of that junk hehehe

now all i gotta do is wait for the elven chainmail i ordered to come in from the chick in the temple

[silverdragon72]

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wouldn't suggest to take a SC wizard for this...


...as you don't get the best feats:


- power attack
- comb. exp.
- dual wielding
- imp. dual wielding
- EW:BS
- cleave
- great cleave

(- imp. critical)


AFAIK for using the elven mail you will also need 2 armor prof. feats for a wizard...


so take at least 2 fighter levels...

...btw. three rogue levels would be great for this PC !

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[Raumoheru]

wouldn't suggest to take a SC wizard for this...


...as you don't get the best feats:


- power attack
- comb. exp.
- dual wielding
- imp. dual wielding
- EW:BS
- cleave
- great cleave

(- imp. critical)


AFAIK for using the elven mail you will also need 2 armor prof. feats for a wizard...


so take at least 2 fighter levels...

...btw. three rogue levels would be great for this PC !

um first off one fighter level wud be ok for ALL armor
second u can take a feat to give a wizard light armor proficiency
and that is what elven chainmail is Light Armor cuz its so light.

[silverdragon72]

Originally posted by Raumoheru
um first off one fighter level wud be ok for ALL armor
second u can take a feat to give a wizard light armor proficiency
and that is what elven chainmail is Light Armor cuz its so light.

I'm not sure with the chainmail - should be medium armor but I've no PC with only light armor prof. to test this...


...but if wielding both - I would suggest to max the numbers of attack...

so you need at least 6 BAB for a 2nd main hand att. and imp. critical...

and you should use comb. exp. (5) and power attack (max. possible)...

...having up to 5 att. per round that always hit - sneak damage gets really powerfull (would take at least 3 rogue levels)


...not knowing exactly how imp. critical and keen works - but if possible max this out !


...afterwards you will do that much damage that cleave and great cleave really pays off...


so for dual wielding take a:

CG human: fighter 4 or 6 - rogue 3 - wizard 3 or 1



...or if you don't have any problem with the huge exp. penalty:


fighter 4 - rogue 3 - barb 1 - wizard 1 - bard 1


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[Mulligan]

Just some small errata...

You'll need BAB 8 to take the Impr Crit. Feat, so it's hard to get for multi-builds.

If you take 3 Rouge lvls early and the rest as Fighter you'll be lvl 9 before you get it, at Rog3/Ftr6.

For Scather/Fragarach, the Keen/Crit stack issue's irrelevant since you cant enchant them. Only way to improve crit. is the feat.

I would take a Cleric9 / Wizard 1 build. 2 attacks, BAB +6/+1, L1 to L5 Cleric spells, and you can Copy all mage scrolls availble and Scribe Scrolls after (yes, you can Scribe L5 mage scrolls with a multi-wiz

Hope this helps

[silverdragon72]

Originally posted by Mulligan
Just some small errata...

You'll need BAB 8 to take the Impr Crit. Feat, so it's hard to get for multi-builds.

If you take 3 Rouge lvls early and the rest as Fighter you'll be lvl 9 before you get it, at Rog3/Ftr6.

For Scather/Fragarach, the Keen/Crit stack issue's irrelevant since you cant enchant them. Only way to improve crit. is the feat.

I would take a Cleric9 / Wizard 1 build. 2 attacks, BAB +6/+1, L1 to L5 Cleric spells, and you can Copy all mage scrolls availble and Scribe Scrolls after (yes, you can Scribe L5 mage scrolls with a multi-wiz

Hope this helps

...you won't get enough feats using a cleric...


ok when you can't craft (cast?) keen on the BS...

...I will go for a fighter 6 - rogue 3 - wizard 1...

...taking the 6th fighter level last with imp. crit. and just ignore the exp. penalty.

5 att. with 2D6 sneak and +14 (?) power attack - imp. crit. and great cleave !!!


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