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Old 02-05-2004, 10:42 AM
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Angry XP and game minimizing constantly

Okay - my turn to have a problem which I can't solve.

I've just bought and installed windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 1 (according to the CD), but have a big big problem....

Each game I try to play minimize itself constantly (and if anybody suggests I'm pressing "win"-key or something, I'll smack them )

On the same note, the Direct3D 7, 8 and 9 test in DirectX (dxdiag) fails, saying that the test was interupted by me pressing a key

I found out, that if I didn't instally some updates to Windows (4 different hotfixes and 1 patch to Internet explorer) this problem is not there - which strikes me as way odd.

Is there anybody that have had any experience with this problem? - because it is quite frankly getting on my nerves that I spend so much money buying original software, and then I can't keep it up to date

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I'm currently running Nvidia drivers for my ASUS Geforce 4 TI 4400, version about 45.XX, but have tried the latest also (52.XX I belive).
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Old 02-05-2004, 11:10 AM
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I've had that happen on a few isolated occasions. Have you tried right-clicking the shortcut to bring up the properties, and set the thing for run in "Maximized?"
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Old 02-05-2004, 12:06 PM
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They just minimize straight afterwards.
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Old 02-05-2004, 03:13 PM
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You pressing the Win key? (sorry, couldn't resist)

I got the same probelme at time with XP Pro. Seems to me like the auto-update feature after it's been initialized once just keeps popping itself up every so often wanting to check for updates. It doesn't pop up a screen, but everytime something gets minimized, the update icon is flashing in the taskbar. You can try turning off the auto feature and just doing it manually. That cleared my problem up anyway.
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Old 02-05-2004, 03:19 PM
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It is not really sporadic or once in a while, it is constantly and all the time.

Also the Windows update is already non-automatic on my computer. The only automatic update I got active is my Norton - which only runs like once or twice a week.
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Old 02-05-2004, 05:49 PM
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Off the top of my head I'd say you'd be best reinstalling DirectX from a different CD, like a modern game or something.
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Old 02-05-2004, 09:45 PM
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You pressing the Win key? (sorry, couldn't resist)

You never know, that may be it!

I've seen a few keyboards that had the windows key stuck due to that black goopy stuff that tends to collect on keyboards and mouse balls, and the users were complaining about odd things happening when they press some of the keys (like E or L). Hitting the windows key really hard solves that one. @Xan, you might want to give it a try, it may be that simple.
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Old 02-06-2004, 01:22 AM
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If the keyboard is sending the "win-key pressed" information in games and the direct3D test, it would send it in onther applications also, and the computer would be impossible to use (for instance the start menu would pop up constantly).

My keyboard seems to work completely fine .......


I think I might have narrowed it down to Norton for some reasons though.
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Old 02-06-2004, 08:53 AM
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Problem identified to involved Nortons Auto Protect feature (the feature that continues controls nothing suspecios hits your harddrive).

When I disable that feature, I can run with the hotfixes I couldn't before.....

Now to find a permanent solution to the problem - cause I really like Norton Internet Security
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Old 02-09-2004, 08:52 PM
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Have you checked up on the Norton website to see if they have a paper devoted to the issue?
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:34 AM
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i've been having this exact same problem for the last month now and it's making gaming for me torturous! i've been doing heaps of surfing and i've found a few soloutions but none of them are working me.. i'm wondering Xandax, since u havn't posted in this thread for a while haev u solved the problem?? please help me
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Old 06-29-2004, 12:57 AM
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i've been having this exact same problem for the last month now and it's making gaming for me torturous! i've been doing heaps of surfing and i've found a few soloutions but none of them are working me.. i'm wondering Xandax, since u havn't posted in this thread for a while haev u solved the problem?? please help me

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Problem identified to involved Nortons Auto Protect feature (the feature that continues controls nothing suspecios hits your harddrive).

When I disable that feature, I can run with the hotfixes I couldn't before.....

Now to find a permanent solution to the problem - cause I really like Norton Internet Security
So basically - that is what I did, and haven't had any problems since.
I've disabled Nortons Auto Protect feature in my Norton Internet Security 2003.

After what I know of this feature - is that it continuesly scans your harddrive for suspicious files and activity. Something I actually would have turned off already, if I had known what it did withouth having this problem .
It seems like a redundant feature, when you have both firewall and anti-virus scanning. But I guess it is to protect against vira from removable medias such as floppy-disks and CD/DVD-disks


I hope this information can help you, because it is a rather annoying problem, and it was hard to "debug"
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:46 AM
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Problem identified to involved Nortons Auto Protect feature (the feature that continues controls nothing suspecios hits your harddrive).

When I disable that feature, I can run with the hotfixes I couldn't before.....

Now to find a permanent solution to the problem - cause I really like Norton Internet Security
I've known people who use Norton (including myself, who specifically use the anti-virus software), and they found it a pain. If you're ever looking for software other than Norton, I'd suggest an anti-virus/firewall program called "McAfee Security Center." Trust me, it works like a charm.


Note: This is only a suggestion if you still experience problems due to Norton.
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Old 06-29-2004, 07:52 AM
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Well - besides the Auto Protect Feature which seems to interfere with Direct3D(or Games, or both or something third ) - I've had no problems at all with Norton.

I know of McAfee, it was my first anti-virus system, and there is also Panda and AVG and ..... well you get the drift
There are many products out there, but currently - I have no plans of moving from Symantec products currently - but if I were, McAfee would likely be the first substitute I'd look at.
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Old 06-29-2004, 08:37 AM
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Well - besides the Auto Protect Feature which seems to interfere with Direct3D(or Games, or both or something third ) - I've had no problems at all with Norton.

I know of McAfee, it was my first anti-virus system, and there is also Panda and AVG and ..... well you get the drift
There are many products out there, but currently - I have no plans of moving from Symantec products currently - but if I were, McAfee would likely be the first substitute I'd look at.
Ahhh, I see.
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