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08-05-2005, 07:29 PM
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| | | What Don't You Want in KotOR III?
we all know what you want but id like to know what dont you want or what you didnt like about the first 2 |
08-05-2005, 07:33 PM
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| | | I think the obvious one is to not rush it to sales. I don't want them to skip any detail neccesary for the game at all. There are many, unmentioned, titles that have been released early for various reasons when they should have kept it, worked on it, made sure it was decent, and the like. No bugs either, don't want any of those, but then again, who does? Other than that, the other two were good enough in terms I don't want. Loved em. |
08-05-2005, 11:55 PM
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| | | pretty cool site and yeah there were more bugs in kotor 3 than the first one cuz i had a few more problems like when i had to get the codes to get to goto t3 m4 like got under the warehouse when i tried to open a metal box but yeah i think that if they take their time the third one is gunna be sweet |
08-13-2005, 04:42 AM
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| | | I would like to see more exotic aliens such as trandoshians and other 1s that havent been in this much.
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08-13-2005, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by TheOne3 we all know what you want but id like to know what dont you want or what you didnt like about the first 2 | The excat oppersite of what I want.
I don't want more bland and generic NPCs who are a shallow reflection of what ever sterotype the developers think that gamers enjoy.
I don't want stupid no-brain puzzles just because it will provide a challenge to players and perhaps scare of some impatient Luke Skywalker/Darth Vader wannabes 
I don't want my character to stop each time he tries to walk over a 5 centimeter obstacle.
I don't want so liniear gameplay disguised by the fact you can visit (small) worlds in random-ish order.
Oh - I could keep going....
but basically - I don't want an Action game slapped with a RPG lable.  |
08-13-2005, 07:09 AM
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| | | I second Xandax's comments. Will either of us be listened to? Not likely, since Lucasarts is deliberately targeting the pre-adoloscent market.
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08-13-2005, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by fable I second Xandax's comments. Will either of us be listened to? Not likely,<snip> | Most definnately not - we are a dying breed drowned by the purchasing power of the masses
But that doesn't mean I'll stop ranting about quality of games..... hmm, sometimes I think I should start blogging to air my frustrations
Oh - sorry for going OT |
08-13-2005, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Xandax Most definnately not - we are a dying breed drowned by the purchasing power of the masses
But that doesn't mean I'll stop ranting about quality of games..... hmm, sometimes I think I should start blogging to air my frustrations | Go for it.  As far as I'm concerned, such voices provide an anchor of sanity in a hurricane of marketing blitz, designed to get kids to buy less content and call it more. There are even those designer entries about the forthcoming Might and Magic 10 where the developer speaks about how dull and annoying long RPGs are.  This is rather like auto industry spokespeople trying to drum up support for the idea that new cars should come with fewer features. One of the hallmarks of computer RPGs in the past and one of their strongest selling points was the length of the game and the growing, shifting challenges you faced. Arguing that we're better off for getting less is an amazing triumph of commercialism over logic.
So as long as we can point to really good puzzles, lengthy campaigns, major changes to gameplay in other, older titles, I think we serve a purpose of reminding today's computer generation of a time when developers weren't own by corporate industries whose sole goal is turning a huge profit. And this applies to Kotor3, as well.
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08-13-2005, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Xandax Oh - sorry for going OT | Perhaps I should edit in a comment in the sticky - grumpy old-timers are only allowed one rant per thread. 
I agree with both fable's and Xandax's comments regarding what is *not* wanted in KoTOR 3 - perhaps this is because I'm part of the old-timers who recall the golden age of computer gaming before it became a tremendously lucrative market that sucked in corprorate vultures like flies. Now, as I amble along the game aisles in stores knocking kids out of the way with my cane so I can see what's on the shelves these days, I just don't get excited by what I find there anymore.
Personally, I would love for KoTOR3 to trade the aurora-type engine for a different one - yep, I'm talking about a 2D isometric screen with 3D rendered characters. Instead of devoting code to tweak and manage 3D renderings, the developers might find themselves with more room to devote to nice artwork, and story involvement. You know, the old-fashioned concept of atmosphere and character depth. NPCs might take on a life of their own, more attention to detail can be poured into the artwork...
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08-13-2005, 07:56 PM
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| | im not so old , but ill tell u what i dont want...
1) dont rush...take ur time and wow us w/ an awesome game! thats the only reason i play videos game (and i dont play very many)
2) dont tell me im the only freakin jedi left when im surounded by em
3) dont make my pc mute. make him/her talk, 4 cryin out loud!
eh...im better at listing off what i do want, so my list is pretty much this. besides, i agree w/ everything else thats been said (i dont really care about isometric screens...so 4) just dont make it look fake )
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08-14-2005, 01:09 AM
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| | Oh Goody, old timers bickering... this should be interesting.
Your too right about the target audience. The last time I had a challenging puzzle was, dont laugh, the pillars in the first one. But considering the current trends and what type of games are big now (shooters, great, what interesting goals ), the chance of any old style RPGs, what with the current kind of gaming, is slim. If you were a company CEO and saw the people liked more action based games and the target was for pre 16 year olds, what would you make?
Old RPGs were more popular, cause at the time, what kind of game was the easiest to make. Any action and strategy game sucked (city building was OK), and the best kind of games were "wandering RPGs" (I dont know where I got the term, but I like using it, it rolls out of your mouth nicely), cause you could incorporate movement with plot development, like reading a 3D (ok, 2D, but with pretty colours!) book.
But now those take time. I think that the best way to enjoy an RPG is to get a nice new series and play it, since its release date is more determined by when its done then !CHRISTMAS SEASON! If Kotor III comes out, Ill be waiting a while for the price to lower before I get it.
And I have a feeling that this thread is gonna turn into one of those where 400 people post and nobody reads it.
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08-14-2005, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by hill1 And I have a feeling that this thread is gonna turn into one of those where 400 people post and nobody reads it. | Quite Right You Are! |
08-14-2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chanak I agree with both fable's and Xandax's comments regarding what is *not* wanted in KoTOR 3 - perhaps this is because I'm part of the old-timers who recall the golden age of computer gaming before it became a tremendously lucrative market that sucked in corprorate vultures like flies. | How nicely put.
I'm not an "old timer," but I'm not so young, either. I did find it rather annoying to play around with puzzles a 7 year old could solve... well, when I was 7 I was a math whiz, and the math puzzle in the Dxun tomb would've been cake. I also don't want easy puzzles in the game, but--for reasons already stated--it's not likely to happen.
I don't want Revan back as a PC, nor the Exile. I don't want some cheesy storyline that wasn't well-thought out just to link the first two games together; I'd hope the third game will have a good plot to follow. I don't want to be able to coast through the planets with relative ease; it'd be handy to find some nooks and crannies in each place with something useful or something to do, or have the NPC side-quests brought back. I recently got Thief, and have been playing it a lot, and maybe we should be able to hide in shadows; it's a common enough tactic in a few games, so why can't we hide in KotOR III? (aside from the high level of technology, the fact that the troops have nightvision, the Sith can sense you in the Force, the droids can see heat signatures) I don't want stupid enemies; they should want to chase you, and if you can duck into a corner to lose them, they search for you. So far, the only application for the Stealth skill is to use the myriad of stealth belts in the game, and if you ask me, the Stealth skill could do just a little bit more.
I could say more, but what I'm thinking about now that I haven't typed--and some of what I've already typed--belongs more in what do you want than here.
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08-17-2005, 12:43 AM
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| | | I don't want to see Ebon Hawk again. I mean it was a good ship but it would be nice to know that there are other ships in the galaxy we can travel on. And I also don't want to have my main character suffer from amnesia again. The storyline should be more inovative. And I'd like to see more developed romance plot than in first two games.It would also be nice if we could have more options in character customisation when it comes to appereance of our character. Not just to choose the face but maybe different hair styles, hair colours, eye colours ........
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08-18-2005, 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lorya I don't want to see Ebon Hawk again. I mean it was a good ship but it would be nice to know that there are other ships in the galaxy we can travel on. And I also don't want to have my main character suffer from amnesia again. The storyline should be more inovative. And I'd like to see more developed romance plot than in first two games.It would also be nice if we could have more options in character customisation when it comes to appereance of our character. Not just to choose the face but maybe different hair styles, hair colours, eye colours ........ |
i most definitely agree with you the whole you lost your memory thing is getting old i mean it was coll in the first one but the second was like did i lose my memory or am i just confused it totlally lost me never the less it was a good game and i dont want kotor 3 to be boring i want missions not runnig from one loading time to the other thank you very much for posting replies and keep posting them and i must correct my self when i said in kotor 3 ithere was bugs i meant kotor 2 obviously haha later  | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Rate This Thread |  Linear Mode | | 
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