What Do You Want in KOTOR III? Part II

[bigredpanda]

Some interesting ideas there, LordOfSithGods.

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

Extremely good quality, so good that…. you can see blood and guts when you look closer at the enemy corpse you just killed.

Not going to happen, I'm afraid. This is LucasArts, after all.

There should be many more planets in the game, and you’re able to travel there any time you wish! Having your own base/house on one of these planets is another thing that KOTOR 3 should have.

I agree, a base would be cool.

NO MORE TURN BASED COMBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I prefer taking combat style of Revenge of the Sith ….or Force unleashed. But being able to change Jedi/other fighting form. ….Meaning you have completely different stance and moves when you change your form from Makashi to Niman to Ataru styles.

I haven't played either of those games. I found the ligthsaber forms in Jedi Academy really awkward to use though. I've commented elsewhere on the problem of jumping on everything - it's the same reason Oblivion took out levitation. A game can only render so much per level in order to run at a decent speed.

Character portrait: The creation of the character should be fully customizable. When you gain or lose strength/dexterity your height (what food you eat, should also be another factor in height and weight) weight and muscle mass should show the changes. Your stance, and the colour, voice and condition of skin and eyes should show your current alignment. You should also be able to get tattoos and change hair style.
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Fully customizable clothes/amour, colour of amour/robes, colour of robes. Also you should be able to put the hood up or down, and take off or add any part of any clothing you want especially if you have a cyborg body part.

Comepltely agree, except for the voice... no voices! LA games have an appalling record of this.

You’re able to either create your own crew, or pick people you want to join your crew from the worlds and factions in the game. It should be anybody you like, also… all the old characters from previous games will have to be in this one (well the ones that are alive still).

I'm not sure what you mean by create your own - it sounds quite cool. I don't think it should be as easy as just picking them, though - not everybody is going to jump at the chance of being in your crew, you have to do some quests or something first.

The Senate
You’re able to become a Politian, rise through the ranks to Supreme Chancellor of the Republic. Has many side missions given by people in the senate and all worlds..

Ok, I really like your missions idea - a bit like Oblivion again, with different factions and so on - but wouldn't it be a bit silly to be Supreme Chancellor? Would a Jedi (not necessarily a Sith, obviously) even be allowed to do that? I like the idea, but maybe the highest rank is like head of the senate guard or something.

[The Eyes of Evi]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

Atton is one of the best characters in KOTOR 2, he's so much like Han Solo! LOL! And he's right about the Jedi being hypocrites. And i agree with what you say

Go us!

We've already had a grey Sith, though you call them Dark Jedi not grey Sith... You're a Sith only if your extremely evil... Revan was more of a Dark Jedi than a true believer of the Sith way... perhaps it's why he didn't change his name, as he was still Revan if you know what i mean...

I don't count Kreia as a Grey Sith, really. She didn't adhere to the Code, after all.
Through my passion I gain strength, through my strength I gain power, through my power I gain victory - through victory, my chains are broken.
Kreia, while a character of the calibre of some Planescape characters I could mention, is not a Grey Sith. She's a Dark Jedi.

A Grey Sith would be a force adept who adhered to the Sith Code while not being a psychotic loony.

Why is the healing power a dark side power? Sith are inward thinking, why would they want to heal? They don't believe they need to heal, they usually use drain, not heal... does the same thing anyway... more effective in a fight.

"Have you ever heard the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"
The Jedi don't believe in using the Force to stave off natural processes. Dying after taking a blaster shot in the gut is what one could count as a natural process. There's a reason Anakin turned to the Dark Side for healing; The Jedi don't heal, they callously let things take their course.

[LordOfSithGods]

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I haven't played either of those games. I found the ligthsaber forms in Jedi Academy really awkward to use though. I've commented elsewhere on the problem of jumping on everything - it's the same reason Oblivion took out levitation. A game can only render so much per level in order to run at a decent speed.

I know all the problems with jumping and levitation in Oblivion and Jedi Academy, however i'm posting what i want, and i don't care if it's hard to do, if it's possible, then it should be done. We're talking about next gen games, why look backwards at the old games for weaknesses? If there are any problems, they should be fixed.

Comepltely agree, except for the voice... no voices! LA games have an appalling record of this.

I still think they should have voices.... Evil or good.

I'm not sure what you mean by create your own - it sounds quite cool. I don't think it should be as easy as just picking them, though - not everybody is going to jump at the chance of being in your crew, you have to do some quests or something first.

Create your own players in your crew with the main character. You customize them as much as possible like you would your main character... I always wanted to create a HK-47 of my own. All others you find in different planets and factions will only join you if you can become friends with them, or teach them... If you're a Jedi Knight, you'd have a Padawan who would follow you for training... Others well you ask them to join your crew like Luffy does in One Piece after you help them in side missions which would reveal more of their life....

Ok, I really like your missions idea - a bit like Oblivion again, with different factions and so on - but wouldn't it be a bit silly to be Supreme Chancellor? Would a Jedi (not necessarily a Sith, obviously) even be allowed to do that? I like the idea, but maybe the highest rank is like head of the senate guard or something.

And why not Supreme Chancellor? This is a game after all. You may not like it, but others would. This game should give every player what they like... If you don't want to be Supreme Chancellor, and Grand Master Of the Jedi Order, then don't join the factions.

[LordOfSithGods]

The Eyes of Evi


I don't count Kreia as a Grey Sith, really. She didn't adhere to the Code, after all.
Through my passion I gain strength, through my strength I gain power, through my power I gain victory - through victory, my chains are broken.
Kreia, while a character of the calibre of some Planescape characters I could mention, is not a Grey Sith. She's a Dark Jedi.

She was a weirdo really, she wanted to kill the force.. She hated it, more than the Sith or Jedi.

A Grey Sith would be a force adept who adhered to the Sith Code while not being a psychotic loony.

Ok, whatever, however in SW they already call people you're talking about Dark Jedi... Or it hasn't been invented yet... But sounds cool though.

"Have you ever heard the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise?"

Yep, he was "a Sith Lord so powerful and wise, that he could manipulate the force to create life... He had such power that he could even stop the ones he loved from dying..." Thats what Sidious told Anakin, but we know Sidious was lying, no Sith had that power, even Darth Plagueis, all life dies. If there is a beginning there is an end.

The Jedi don't believe in using the Force to stave off natural processes. Dying after taking a blaster shot in the gut is what one could count as a natural process.

LOL! I disagree, they do heal because there are many Jedi Healers... They don't try to manipulate the force to heal anything thats going to die naturally... They won't let a Sith force lightning someone and just allow him to kill them, they'd definitely stop the kill, and heal them... Sith don't have friends, as you can see their best friends kill them one day, as Sidious killed Plagueis and Vader killed Sidious.

Oh and Sidious also tells Anakin he killed Plagueis, after he learned everything Plagueis knew. Then later he tells Anakin that he(Sidious) and Anakin can find a way to learn to keep themselves from dying. Surely you can see he was lying, he and Plagueis never knew how to create life, and Sidious was hoping the Jedi knew when he sent Anakin to the Library to steal all Jedi Holocrons, records, kill Jedi and send messages to all Jedi to return.

There's a reason Anakin turned to the Dark Side for healing; The Jedi don't heal, they callously let things take their course.

Anakin turned to the dark side because he didn't want his wife to die... Though i don't think he fully believed Sidious, that's why he tried to reach Master Rank in the Jedi... He knew they would kick him out of the Jedi Order when they found out he was married and was about to become a father... He had no real choice... Which became worse when he attacked Mace, from then on he knew he can never find a way to save her by being a Jedi, as he'd be kicked out.

[XxZEENOxX]

in SW kotor 1 when u join the sith the training room was awsome u get to try all ur weapons, they should have some thing like that in the new kotor 3, if u kill u get dark side points so they should have like holograms to fight wit, and it should be on eash academy jedi/sith also 1 training room abord the ship , like the way we were fighting the echani woman there has to be all type of combat unarmed , swords/sabers , blasters, and they should have some new reflexes, like rolls,leaps while ur using blasters it would be cool,
ow and they should have dueling matches in all cities just like the swoop bikes, and u should be able to call ur party members for a game of pazzak or for a training duel by the way they should think of some new models for the blasters almost all look the same, as well as the swords, i mean come on, all the bad ass sith lords had crap swords i mean they look like a ordinary long sword or DB blade, (ex ajunta paul , naaga sadow) and they need to add a few more alien types like that "jar jar" freak hes funny and ewoks and they should have some sort of transport vehicle on each city some thing u can rent or buy running around is boaring,lol and this time the robes should have a change, i mean the jedi robes r ok, but the sith robes should have hoods, like the 1 raven has not all robes at least the dark jedi master robes, and when u become dark side i mean max dark side there should be like smoke comming out of ur eyes or ur foot prints leave fire trails and if ur light side is max, there should be a bright glow around u, and when u creat ur char u should be able to add come sort of tatoos or markings on ur self, like malak's head and u should be able to make some of ur body parts robotic

[Necropolis666]

i think the game should give you the option to train as either a jedi or sith,

like in KOTOR when you trained in the temple, then you could also do the sith quest but it made no difference to you, you were still a jedi,

so, you should be a normal character with a class choice i.e merchant, smuggler, bounty hunter, etc. and then be able to choose either a sith temple or jedi temple to train in, so that you will be a sith or jedi for the duration of the game, but you can still be good or evil, i.e fallen jedi, or sith with a conscience lol... and you cannot train in the sith temple once you are a jedi and vice versa

and you should be able to play as multiple races, rather than just humans

nothing else i can think of right now

[Invisable Man]

dude id love to be able to progress in more than just a jedi or a prestiege jedi id love to take on different sides like you can do bounty hunter quests maybe add a little variety to the combat system like jade empire that was a good system or make the fight system like fable i really dont like having to push the same buttons over and over i mean make us be able to manuver

but then again i have a stupid computar and i need to keep these requests at a minimum because im only running a 1GB or ram