"True Sith" or Return of Revan

[Darth Shishio]

I hope you guys do remember why the sith had disappeared for a millennium before appearing again at Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. It was because of a sith in the first place. Do you guys remember Darth Bane, the one who enforced the Rule Of Two for the Sith, goaded the brotherhood of darkness into detonating the thought bomb thus destroying almost all of the remaining sith apart from him and his apprentice. So i don't think Kotor 3 can tie up events since this here does.
But what it can tie up is the emergence of Darth Ruin, since it is said he resurrected the sith at around 2,000 BBY. How and why I don't know, so let's hope to find out.

[Darth Valthri]

Originally Posted by Darth Shishio

I hope you guys do remember why the sith had disappeared for a millennium before appearing again at Episode 1: The Phantom Menace. It was because of a sith in the first place. Do you guys remember Darth Bane, the one who enforced the Rule Of Two for the Sith, goaded the brotherhood of darkness into detonating the thought bomb thus destroying almost all of the remaining sith apart from him and his apprentice. So i don't think Kotor 3 can tie up events since this here does.
But what it can tie up is the emergence of Darth Ruin, since it is said he resurrected the sith at around 2,000 BBY. How and why I don't know, so let's hope to find out.

not to seem rude here, but i hope YOU remember that the "Sith" of the movies aren't really Sith, they're just Dark Jedi. and i thought that some Sith Lord or another managed to acquire a holocron left by Revan, and he learned a bunch from it. if so, i also thought that they learned about the thought bomb from that. i'm almost positive on the holocron part, but less so on the thought bomb part.

[Darth Shishio]

You may be right about the sith in episode 1, they may actually Dark Jedi calling themselves sith. But still, my point is that Darth Bane, destroyed the Brotherhood of Darkness at around 1,000 BBY. Isn't that the millenium Ki Adi Mundi (or Mace Windu or whomever) was talking about? Since they were not talking about True Sith in the form of Darth Maul and Sidious, I know they were speaking about the sith, sorry, dark Jedi, that were around a millenium ago, coz since then, they hadn't been seen for all that time.
Either way around, call them Dark Jedi, call them Sith, I don't think KOTOR 3 can tie up events in Phantom Menace.

[XRichX]

Yeah i think it should be Revan's return, we need to know more about his background and what happened after KOTOR I, although we could implement both stories into one perhaps, play as the exile and Raven. A bit like the style of Halo two with Master Cheif and the Arbiter.

During the course of the game you switch between the two main characters but you still have a group.

Exile with his/her group of chars.

Revan with Carth, Bastila etc.

[andre93]

Darth Revan should return, playable or not he must return, aswell as the True Sith, it'd be pretty cool putting them together. Should make at least one of them playable, i'd say make True Sith the playable one as Revan has already been a playable character

[candle]

First off the Sith in the Movies are Sith by learning, after Darth Bane established the rule of 2, the Sith Master taught the Apprentance which killed the master and taught a new apprintance. Also the Real Sith where a people found by Ajunta Pall after the 100 years darkness and the Dark Jedi fled to the unknow regions, they where later killed during the Great Hyperspace war. Sith at this point is an idealogy and not an actual people as if the Sith where a people that makes the last Sith Naga Sadow which Exar Kun learned from before killing him.

[Darth Shishio]

Yeah the sith in the movies are ones who follow a certain belief in the dark side of the force, much like the jedi are people who follow a certain belief through the light side of the force. So I ask what would the star wars movies be if these sith were called dark Jedi?

[Minalkali]

I don't know a lot about the expanded universe, if anything, but I've played and love both Kotor games and I think there is an insane amount of potential for awesomeness in Kotor 3.

I couldn't place a vote because I think the game would be best if both were included. It wouldn't be too hard for the setting to take into consideration Revan and the Exile's variables (gender and alignment), but I think both of them have to be included in it.

Here are a few vague ideas I've had:

Since at this point the Jedi are all but wiped out, perhaps the Sith could now have complete control over the galaxy, but are now fighting among themselves.

There has to be something 'special' about the PC (ie: Revan is Revan, the Exile is a wound in the force etc). Usually they start out as an underdog of some sort, so figuring out how this is gonna work would be difficult. One idea I had is that you start out as a disillusioned Sith apprentice who abandoned his master and is being hunted. What I was thinking was that the Dark Side has no real power over the PC, in that all that anger or fear or whatever that tends to make people fall to the dark side doesn't work on them. They can still be an *******, just not "UNLIMITED POWAAA" evil.

The first planet could consist of PC being found by the Sith and hunted, but saved by the Exile, who kills the PCs master, then escapes the planet in the Ebon Hawk of course, and then takes on a role somewhat like Kreia. The Exile could then train the PC while continuing her search for Revan. This is why they need to visit different planets. I figure they need to find Revan pretty quickly, because the main focus of this game needs to be the true sith. The second planet they visit could be the one that leads them to the area of space Revan disappeared to. Revan (who now has an apprentice) finds them though, and is now a Sith lord (again perhaps) and tries to kill them for a while. But after a while it turns out that Revan was just sizing them up, and perhaps trying to serve another goal in the process. This would be an intricate plot seeing as Revan is a master strategist. I haven't thought of one but it'd be cool right? Revan is not a follower, but his apprentice is.

At this point the war with the true sith kicks in and the reason they're the only ones who stand a chance is that they all have power over the dark side like the PC. Revan because of his memory wipe/extreme intellect and power, and the Exile because of Malachor V and/or Kreia's teachings.

Yeah, I've thought about this a lot. I'm sorry if any of it breaks canon or anything like that, but as I said I'm not too familiar with the SW universe except the Kotor games. Still, I hope there are at least some good ideas in there.

I think I typed a lot, thanks for reading if you did!

[jedispartan111]

Originally Posted by Darth StosH

Which one would you rather have KOTOR 3 based upon
lots of fans would love to have Revan return

but what about that claim of Kreia saying they have not even come close to seeing what the "True Sith" can do
that would finish the story of the mysterious "True Sith" that many of us want answered

which would you want for Kotor 3???

I heard that revan was looking for the true sith so if it was the return of revan the true sith would be there. and the other way around. but i think it would be cooler if it was the return of revan.

[Smiley:)]

If this is the question then I would choose BOTH because there are so many connections between these two ideas that that they cannot go on seperately. That's why I won't vote.

[Sithlord1989]

Originally Posted by jedispartan111

I heard that revan was looking for the true sith so if it was the return of revan the true sith would be there. and the other way around. but i think it would be cooler if it was the return of revan.

I think maybe a mix of characters such as Bastila,the Exile,Revan,Carth,HK47 ect., But the True Sith should definatly be included because we know next to nothing except for a few past Sith like Marko Ragnos,Naga Sadow ect.

[TheCrazdPariah]

I would say that it should have both and that you should play as revan. I mean who else has enough power to fight the true sith. It's not like they could create another random schmuck to combat the most dangerous threat to the republic since... well the last bad guys. It might be interesting to start at a high level and continue growing in power as you fight. The exile should be included but i would think that revan has the best shot at beating them. And I also believe that he should be allowed to use both sides of the force in order to combat the true sith but that's just my opinion. O and before i forget they should add HK-47, who else can kill true sith/meatbags faster than HK.

[Sithlord1989]

Originally Posted by TheCrazdPariah

I would say that it should have both and that you should play as revan. I mean who else has enough power to fight the true sith. It's not like they could create another random schmuck to combat the most dangerous threat to the republic since... well the last bad guys. It might be interesting to start at a high level and continue growing in power as you fight. The exile should be included but i would think that revan has the best shot at beating them. And I also believe that he should be allowed to use both sides of the force in order to combat the true sith but that's just my opinion. O and before i forget they should add HK-47, who else can kill true sith/meatbags faster than HK.

How do you he is not one of them, he might have joined with them after all he was the lord of the sith for a time.

[TheCrazdPariah]

Originally Posted by Sithlord1989

How do you he is not one of them, he might have joined with them after all he was the lord of the sith for a time.

But remember Kreia mentions that she believes revan didn't actually fall but chose to walk that path in order to protect the galaxy against the true sith. He allowed many of the stronger planets survive and he was making an empire in order to fight them. I hardly think that he would do a u-turn and join them. But you do have a valid point... just not as valid as mine.

[Sithlord1989]

Originally Posted by TheCrazdPariah

But remember Kreia mentions that she believes revan didn't actually fall but chose to walk that path in order to protect the galaxy against the true sith. He allowed many of the stronger planets survive and he was making an empire in order to fight them. I hardly think that he would do a u-turn and join them. But you do have a valid point... just not as valid as mine.

Yes thats true but the lure of the dark side is ever present especially for the strongest,and most arrogant of the jedi.Revan is no exception to that rule.I think that it would do him good to learn from the true sith he would become more powerful than he was the last time as Darth Revan.