The Main Villain in KotOR III

[Altmer1989]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

Thats kinda obvious, but again star wars doesn't care about normal birth if Anakin was born to a virgin. But i don't see how that affects his age.. He doesn't need to have a male and female with him after he is born.. and he certainly doesn't need them to live for 10,000 years, unless he requires a host body to live in when his body dies of old age.

Well whatever the curcumstance he would be so old physically he couldnt do much.

Thats already been done, i prefer something new. And this Sith needs to be one who was really responsible for the Mandalorian wars.. (can't be done if he's in suspended animation! LOL) and the wars with Exar Kun since thats what Kreia and many other Jedi masters explain to the Exile and Revan in KOTOR 1 & 2.

Well maybe he could have the power to manipulate midichlorians to keep himself alive and since this is before the time of darth plaguis no recorded previous use.

I don't believe he was over confident in his apprentices abilities. Because he wouldn't test who was the strongest in the fight between Darth Tyranus and Anakin, if he already knew. Also after he won the fight with Yoda he sensed Darth Vader was in trouble, if he was over confident in Vaders abilities, he wouldn't have bothered flying to Mustafar to save him..

He wouldnt have had to go to mustafar if he would trained anakin thus showing overconfidence in him,also he expected darth maul toi kill to jedi one a master.

We have already agreed that no one can be perfect, until the creators decide they are..

The designers wont do that because the game would be pointless if they did 2 things could happen you could be it or the main villian could and either way it makes for a boring predictable game.

Oh don't worry mate kids are like that some times.. Just a joke mate, no need to activate your lightsaber..

What exactly makes you think Im a kid hmm....

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Sithlord1989

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Well whatever the curcumstance he would be so old physically he couldnt do much.

In real life a 60 yr old won't be able to fight good... but in star wars a 900 (Yoda) yr old is an extremely powerful fighter.. Age is not going to stop a Sith Lord from kicking the poo out of people.

Well maybe he could have the power to manipulate midichlorians to keep himself alive and since this is before the time of darth plaguis no recorded previous use.

Possible... nice idea.

He wouldnt have had to go to mustafar if he would trained anakin thus showing overconfidence in him, also he expected darth maul toi kill to jedi one a master.

No, thats confidence, NOT overconfidence. Vader was a new Sith mate, Sidious knew he wasn't powerful enough to kill Jedi like Yoda, but he thought he could beat Obiwon... It's not his fault Vader was a idiot who throught he was unbeatable... Hell the dumb bitch thought he could kill Sidious.

Darth Maul did kill a master, and nearly killed Obiwon, the reason here for his failure is pure luck... Obiwon used his masters lightsaber, had Maul destroyed that saber, Obiwon would also have died... I still don't call that over confidence.

The designers wont do that because the game would be pointless if they did 2 things could happen you could be it or the main villian could and either way it makes for a boring predictable game.

Why would it be pointless? We want a tough game, with both the main character and the main villian stronger than all previous characters, including Revan!! I'd be really pissed off if i have to be in the shadow of him again... i found it annoying to find no matter what i achieved in the game, i was still told Revan was some how stronger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What exactly makes you think Im a kid hmm

I was joking!

[Altmer1989]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

In real life a 60 yr old won't be able to fight good... but in star wars a 900 (Yoda) yr old is an extremely powerful fighter.. Age is not going to stop a Sith Lord from kicking the poo out of people.

Yes thats true but we are talking 10,000 years not a paltry 900 that a HUGE difference plus look at darth sidious when he faced luke in return of the jedi he was old and could barely walk.and he was no ten thousand year old man.

Possible... nice idea.

Thanks...

No, thats confidence, NOT overconfidence. Vader was a new Sith mate, Sidious knew he wasn't powerful enough to kill Jedi like Yoda, but he thought he could beat Obiwon... It's not his fault Vader was a idiot who throught he was unbeatable... Hell the dumb bitch thought he could kill Sidious.

He didnt think he could beat sidious for real his anger clouded his judgment like for example: "you had anakin kill younglings now Im going to kill you"

Darth Maul did kill a master, and nearly killed Obiwon, the reason here for his failure is pure luck... Obiwon used his masters lightsaber, had Maul destroyed that saber, Obiwon would also have died... I still don't call that over confidence.

Yes but Quigon knew when it came to lightsabers he was no match for darth maul he was mediocure in lightsabers while obi wan was trained as a jedi guadian so he could beat him either way sending d.m. up against two was really dumb.

Why would it be pointless? We want a tough game, with both the main character and the main villian stronger than all previous characters, including Revan!! I'd be really pissed off if i have to be in the shadow of him again... i found it annoying to find no matter what i achieved in the game, i was still told Revan was some how stronger!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It would be pointless because in either case you would know how the game would end before it began you would be too strong thus no challenge or the main villian thus impossible or alot of repeated last battle.So I say leave the level of power to realistic levels.I know its a game but comeon.

I was joking!

OKAY, whatever

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Sithlord1989

Yes but Quigon knew when it came to lightsabers he was no match for darth maul he was mediocure in lightsabers while obi wan was trained as a jedi guadian so he could beat him either way sending d.m. up against two was really dumb.

A don't think a Jedi Consular(Quigon) or Obi Won(Guardian) is capable of taking on a Sith Lord... They're (Sith) trained in all forms of combat, force and saber... They were no match for him... It was not dumb sending Maul to kill them... If you was Sidious and knew how strong Maul and the Jedi are, you would have no reason to fear a failure on paper/theory... But in reality everything is possible... They had the force to thank for their success.

[Altmer1989]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

A don't think a Jedi Consular(Quigon) or Obi Won(Guardian) is capable of taking on a Sith Lord... They're (Sith) trained in all forms of combat, force and saber... They were no match for him... It was not dumb sending Maul to kill them... If you was Sidious and knew how strong Maul and the Jedi are, you would have no reason to fear a failure on paper/theory... But in reality everything is possible... They had the force to thank for their success.

I guess we can agree on something the sith are superior but if it was me I would have had him fight each one singally to be on the safe side.Im not underesimating darth maul but Im just saying better to be safe than one sith shorter.

[Lex.mkr]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

Darth Maul did kill a master, and nearly killed Obiwon, the reason here for his failure is pure luck... Obiwon used his masters lightsaber, had Maul destroyed that saber, Obiwon would also have died... I still don't call that over confidence.

It wasn't Obi-Wan's luck, it was Darth Maul's overconfidence. When Obi-Wan was disarmed and trying not to fall in that bottomless hole, Darth Maul could have easily killed him. Instead, he found it better to play with his lightsaber and create sparks. When Obi-Wan used force jump to get out of the hole and land behind Darth Maul, Darth Maul could have done the same thing Obi-Wan would do to Anakin on Mustafar. Instead, he just watched Obi-Wan cutting him in two.

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Sithlord1989

I guess we can agree on something the sith are superior but if it was me I would have had him fight each one singally to be on the safe side.Im not underesimating darth maul but Im just saying better to be safe than one sith shorter.

How you gonna do that if you were Maul?.... Ask Obi Won to come back 10 minutes later?

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Lex.mkr

It wasn't Obi-Wan's luck, it was Darth Maul's overconfidence. When Obi-Wan was disarmed and trying not to fall in that bottomless hole, Darth Maul could have easily killed him. Instead, he found it better to play with his lightsaber and create sparks. When Obi-Wan used force jump to get out of the hole and land behind Darth Maul, Darth Maul could have done the same thing Obi-Wan would do to Anakin on Mustafar. Instead, he just watched Obi-Wan cutting him in two.

Well Obi Won knew what Vader was gonna attempt on Mustafar, but it was a huge suprise to Maul when Obi Won did the same to him, especially since Maul had kicked Obi's saber down that hole!! Thats called luck!! Maul was clearly the stronger of the two...

However i found it stupid that such a powerful saber master was defeated in such a pathetic way. Thats the only way Obi could win, LUCK!!! nOT mAULS OVERCONFIDENCE

[Lex.mkr]

Ok ok, yeah yeah. Darth Maul, who was killed on his first duel with Jedi, is da greatest Sith ever and Obi-Wan, who killed da great Darth Maul, is just a lucky b*****d.

[Altmer1989]

Originally Posted by LordOfSithGods

How you gonna do that if you were Maul?.... Ask Obi Won to come back 10 minutes later?

No, I would have had maul trap quigon into being alone by telling him through the force where Im at and tell him to come alone then when he got there I would have d.m. fight him then feeling his master's death obi wan would rush there only this time no big gaping hole in the ground.

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Sithlord1989

No, I would have had maul trap quigon into being alone by telling him through the force where Im at and tell him to come alone then when he got there I would have d.m. fight him then feeling his master's death obi wan would rush there only this time no big gaping hole in the ground.

Now you definitely sound like a child... Maul, Quigon and Obi-Won were not in a tornament to see who was the best fighter. Their job is to protect the Queen. Mauls job was to kill the Queen. They were in each others way as obsticles... They were in a war for survival, they didn't have enough time to decide where they were going to fight.

Your idea would look ridculous in the movie... The Queen is being attacked and Quigon leaves to fight Maul and Obi-Won lets him take on a Sith Lord... The Jedi would never do that, and Maul's only interest was killing the Queen, not the Jedi, though he would of course if they got in his way, which they did.

[LordOfSithGods]

Originally Posted by Lex.mkr

Ok ok, yeah yeah. Darth Maul, who was killed on his first duel with Jedi, is da greatest Sith ever and Obi-Wan, who killed da great Darth Maul, is just a lucky b*****d.

You sound as though Maul was so weak that he couldn't kill half of the Order in one on one saber duel... I'm sure he could have killed half of them, probably more.

The only Jedi he couldn't fight in the movie was Master Windu and Yoda, who would kick his butt in seconds... Obi-Won says many times that Quigon was one of the strongest Jedi Masters in the Order, and Maul killed him quite easily, plus Maul had a lot of training from the Dark Lord himself.

If Maul fought Obi-Won or Anakin in Revenge of the Sith, he'd get his butt kicked by them as they had more than tripled in force and saber skills.. But lets be honest here, Obi-Won didn't win the war because Maul was overconfident in beating a Padawan... Don't forget this is a fight between a Sith Lord trained by the Dark Lord against a Jedi Padawan. He was confident, NOT Overconfident.

[exiled]

OMG this thread has morphed from a KOTOR main villain thread to a darth maul thread

[BlueSky]

Since this subject has been covered and the thread hijacked...
There are threads that are devoted to rumors and what you want in KOTOR III

Thread now closed..