KotOR III Storyline and Remarks

[fozzy1169]

I think it would be awesome if they were able to tie in the KOTOR series with the original star wars series. In the first series you were a mysterious jedi trying to "find himself (herself)" again. In the second one y ou learned that the force was not as black and white as you thought. Similarly, Episode III revolved around the same theme. What is common to this theme? The prophecy? What if in KOTOR III Revan went "beyond the borders of the galaxy" and found the TRUE meaning of the force. In doing so, the prophecy is somehow established. IT'd be cool.

[Chanak]

@fozzy: That would be a good premise for a third installment. Since it also ties in with the evolving view of the Force in the Star Wars movies, that would make sense. After all, it can be generally assumed that Obi-wan uses a Dark Side power - rage, perhaps - in his various lightsaber battles in the series, particularly against Darth Maul. Obi-wan tends to be more of an offensive Jedi when he engages the enemy. This could point towards an actual unification of the Force, since intent seems to be the deciding factor in what the Force does to the user that channels it. KoTOR 3 would a great way to gel this together.

[Bastila_Shan]

Originally Posted by fozzy1169

I think it would be awesome if they were able to tie in the KOTOR series with the original star wars series. In the first series you were a mysterious jedi trying to "find himself (herself)" again. In the second one y ou learned that the force was not as black and white as you thought. Similarly, Episode III revolved around the same theme. What is common to this theme? The prophecy? What if in KOTOR III Revan went "beyond the borders of the galaxy" and found the TRUE meaning of the force. In doing so, the prophecy is somehow established. IT'd be cool.

what a great Idea

[fozzy1169]

Thanks for the approval. I thought about this as well. If Kotor III did use the establishment of the prophecy as a premise, then such a foreshadowing to Anakin as the one to balance the force could be used as an excuse to make three more star wars movies based on what could be argued as some of the most beloved of the star wars lore, kotor.

[yoyopogo104]

awesome....that way theyd have to make more games! and im always up for that! (theyd just better have more customization for our characters, though )

[Hill-Shatar]

wonder what the prophecy would say though? It be really cool, finally seeing how this affects the series, but is there more to the prophecy than just a chosen one will appear that will bring balance to the force? Or will there be more to it?

Come to think of it, what if the main character was or is connected mainly through this prophecy? Mistaken as the chosen one, or perhaps a similar but not the same prophecy that was made even before that one?

Wonder howd they fit prophecy into the jedi or siths way of things? It be interesting, cause yoda wasnt really able to see that far into the future. Would your main character be the one who makes the rophecy, or do you have to do something to find or make the prohecy?

Either way thats a really good idea!

[Kaja Sinis]

Well the Prophecy of the One who would bring Balance in the Force was made far before KOTOR's timeline. Infact, 25,000 years before Episode I, it was Kaja Sinis who originated and founded the Jedi Order, discovering and teaching the ways of the Force from both sides. These original "Jedi Bendu Knights" as they were called at the time were taught to harness both the Light Side and the Dark of the Force, but to serve the Light, which I thought was quite interesting after watching Revan and the Exile unfold. Kaja Sinis also invented the Jedi Holocron and the Lightsaber. Sinis' first apprentice, Shinto Beerus, discovered Sinis' holocrons after Sinis' was slain in the first war effort against Dark Jedi and Sith Lords; the first imbalance. In one of the holocrons contained a recording from Sinis' prophecying the One who would bring balance. Apparently Beerus re-recorded the holocron or something like that, and it was not rediscovered for millenia. It was rediscovered when Yoda was 177. So that's what?.. about 650-700 years before Episode I. Yoda himself was originally believed to be the One who would fulfill the Prophecy, except that he couldn't be because further findings proved that the One would be born of a virgin mother. So as far as the Prophecy goes, there was only this one made, and it was about Anakin and Anakin only. I don't suspect Revan or the Exile would be able to coincide with it in any way. I'd also go out on a limb to say that the reason Yoda couldn't see very far into the future was because doing such brings about pain and suffering. He said it himself to Luke in Episode V. I believe Yoda chooses to avoid the agony that leads to the tremors of the dark side. Anakin himself was made a slave to the dark side by his premonitions of the possible future for Padme. "That path leads to jealousy, and the shadow of greed, that is." I do, however, agree that either Revan, The Exile, or both will come to a greater understanding of the Force, as they are deemed "Echoes that must be silenced", and "terrible wounds" in the stability of the Force and the galaxy. The malice they carry from situations like Malachor V, is believed to reverberate throughout the Force, so I feel that KOTOR III will attempt to either eliminate them, join them, and/or ultimately redeem them within the Force.

[fozzy1169]

Well, I had no idea about all of that other prophecy stuff. But, to keep with the spirit of the thing...what if KOTOR III then assumed that the exile would balance the force and Revan was his/her guide along the way. Ultimately, like yoda as you said, the exile would not be the one to balance the force. But, in discussing the prophecy in the first place, they would have to go into all of the back story of the bendu knights. They kinda did similar things in the tomb scenes and such, but it was usually just for points rather than for story progression. This time however, they could build it up to the ultimate conclusion that the fate of the force and the galaxy would have to be determined in the future, foreshadowing anakin. It might be a stretch, I dunno, but it is possible I think. Plus, if Revan has gone so far off in the galaxy as KOTOR II said, than the possibilities for what he has learned or encountered is limitless. Is it possible that Revan could go back to some of the original bendu training facilities, or find some Templar like Holy Grail of the force gaurding Bendo knight? Again it might be a stretch, but to be honest, it was kinda a stretch how they tied kotor II into Kotor I, at least it seemed disjointed. But, if yoda 'rediscovered' the prophecy as you say, who is to say that Revan did not do the same thing and then believed that the exile was the one to balance the whole thing. They have probelms, obviously, and learn that the prophecy was better left undiscovered. There has been no mention of the prophecy in any of the KOTOR games, so this could be done. And then, we're not just talking about a KOTOR series of movies, but it could instead of foreshadowing anaking, foreshadow yoda. so we could make 6 new episodes 3 for KOTOR and 3 for Yoda's training and finding of the prophecy. The point of the star wars series would no longer be so vadercentric, but forcecentric.

[Kaja Sinis]

Indeed they are some stretches, however very clever ones. If a false prophecy was made for Yoda, perhaps it could be tied in with Revan/Exile to put a nostalgic, familiar twist on the next KOTOR, or even for them to become involved with unraveling the Prophecy itself would be interesting. And you nailed it buddy. More SW movies and games sounds damn sweet!

And GO-TO still sucks!

[fozzy1169]

If the point of the game was the discovery of the prophecy, who would you play as? If you played as some new character then it would take up too much time to establish your own back story. If you started as Revan or the Exile then it would be the same old thing again = loss of force powers, rediscovery, save the galaxy again. But, what if you were to use another character that was in the first and second installment? What if you played as Bastilla? In Kotor II we saw a cut-scene of bastilla and Karth speaking about Revan. Bastiall and Revan apparently were more involved then the Kotor I storyline could have revealed. So, in a padme and anakin sorta way, Bastilla goes after Revan. In her searching she encounters the exile, and the story goes on from there. It could take many twists from there. Bastilla could have to battle kreia, or even some of the other characters with lose ends. It could make for a very interesting storyline, and possibly, Bastilla could be the one who is supposed to balance the force. So, that dynamic of love driving someone to the dark side could be played off of again. It could make things interesting.

[yoyopogo104]

i dont remeber who, but in one of the other threads someone talked about possibly playing as dustil onasi. i think this is a fesible way to reconnect w/ the past characters of KOTOR. this way we'd have to come across carth, who most likely has connections w/ bastila, who probably is looking for revan, who...haha, etc...

but then, what if we wanted to play as a female? they'd have to come up w/ somethin like our player actually being dustil's long lost sister, whom was never mentioned by carth for some mysterious reason...perhaps she dihonored him in some way, rebelled against him...left home to fight for the republic against her daddy's wishes, and happened to follow revan, learning some of the ways of the jedi/sith?

[Elias De vere]

How about it somehow links in with the orignal trilogy like in a cutscene with a character from the trilogy finding an old datapad about the real formation of the republic, and the new founding of the jedi order. then in the game, you are just a normal person walking about on a planet you chose, and are drafted in to help out in the galactic war to save the old republic which is going stagnant, and you train to be a soldier, but don't level up! then, you save a jedi's life in battle, who happens to be Bastilla, and you discover by accident you have some affinity to the force, and the game goes on from there. also the exile problem is solved, he/she is dead and so is revan, killed by the real enemies in the game, the Sith'ari, the perfect beings yuthara talks about in the first game.

[Hill-Shatar]

OK, all, with the sudden influx of people who want to discuss the plot they want, in the next KotOR, this thread is going to be housing those suggestions, and I will merge any further threads made here. Remember, this thread is for storylines and responses to them only, and not about game mechanics or weapons and similar other items you want in the game. Let's leave those here.

[The Exile]

My thoughts r that u should be Revan, and have bastilla in ur party soon after starting...at the FIRST planet u go to, no matter what 1 it is, the exile should join ur party. the story should be the 3 of u (and the others that join u) trying to fix the republic as a jedi, or conqer the galaxy as a sith...

[DarthBob]

Originally Posted by Hill-Shatar

OK, all, with the sudden influx of people who want to discuss the plot they want, in the next KotOR, this thread is going to be housing those suggestions, and I will merge any further threads made here. Remember, this thread is for storylines and responses to them only, and not about game mechanics or weapons and similar other items you want in the game. Let's leave those here.

What do you think of this? You are a new charachter which starts off as a jedi. You find T3 in your room in the jedi temple on courascant. T3 has a message from Reven which says that he/she has been attacked by the Sith and he is dying in the outer Rim areas on his/ hers home planet. He/she pleads you to go and tell Carth (Female) or Bastila (male) and gather more troops to finsh what he/she started against the true sith. You have to tell bastila or Carth and get a ship and travel to different planets (Naboo, Alderan, etc,etc) and find the planet of the hidden Sith base. Or if you chose to be a sith you do the exact opposite and destroy the jedi temple instead of the sith base. What do you think people?