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03-08-2007, 10:10 PM
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| | | Does alignment matter? I've been hearing for years that you should never be a gray jedi. Does it really matter? Does anything different happen when you're neutral, rather than being light or dark? | 
03-08-2007, 10:35 PM
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| | | The one time I tried to play as a more or less neutral character...I found that the story line and choices the game made you take, tended to push your character towards one side or the other.
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03-09-2007, 11:09 AM
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| | | Some events can only happen when your character has reached a certain point along the alignment scale... I believe Visas Marr won't show up until you've reached 25% in either Dark or Light.
Also, if you're not about 75% Light/Dark you cannot gain a prestige class. The tomb on Korriban is another issue, you might even need Mastery to gain access. | 
03-09-2007, 10:06 PM
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| | | I do remember not being able to enter the tomb because I wasn't dark enough, and I exhausted all ways to get darker on one of my files... Has anybody beat the game as neutral? | 
03-14-2007, 12:24 PM
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| | | Never beaten it as neutral, but I have gotten different endings based on alignment. also, alignment seems to affect how your character looks. If you get totally evil you look like Sion.
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03-15-2007, 05:46 AM
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| | | I've taken the game as neutral. No prestige class allowed for them. Also, no cave on Korraban. But the cave is a side quest & does not need to be completed to finish the game. Also, endings about the same as light / dark.
The only other thing I can think of is the 'your crystal' is less powerful then choosing a side.
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03-17-2007, 11:06 AM
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| | | Actually, IMO the neutral crystal is the only reward for taking the neutral path... that one gives a lot more stat boosts, plus quite a score of force immunity. Especially when using double lightsabers this crystal is absolutely awesome.
The crystals for half-dark and half-light are worst though. They are like the full-light and full-dark crystals but miss out on one bonus. (mass criticals and damage vs. dark side) | 
03-19-2007, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Darth Zion I do remember not being able to enter the tomb because I wasn't dark enough, and I exhausted all ways to get darker on one of my files... Has anybody beat the game as neutral? | I have, It's basically the same as light side but without the prestige class and Korriban tomb...
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03-19-2007, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ergophobia Actually, IMO the neutral crystal is the only reward for taking the neutral path... that one gives a lot more stat boosts, plus quite a score of force immunity. Especially when using double lightsabers this crystal is absolutely awesome. | Where did you come by this crystal?  The last time I played this game, I have never encountered this crystal before.
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03-19-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by DesR85 Where did you come by this crystal?  The last time I played this game, I have never encountered this crystal before. | I believe he's referring to the <player_name> Crystal, when set to neutral.
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03-19-2007, 03:42 PM
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| | | He was. Anyways, for kicks:
Light Side Mastery:
STR +5
DEX +6
WIS +7
Attack +3
Damage +5 Light Side
Damage +10 vs. Dark Side
Dark Side Mastery:
STR +7
DEX +5
CHA +6
Attack +3
Damage +5 Dark Side
Massive Criticals +3-30
Neutral:
STR +4
DEX +4
CON +5
WIS +5
CHA +4
Attack +3
Force Resist +24
(you can easily check this using the console to add the items - I'm unsure about when you'd get a 'neutral' crystal though... perhaps somewhere between -10 and +10 or so) | 
03-21-2007, 08:19 PM
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| | | So if you end the game neutral, you don't get any special movies or items except the <your name> crystal?Also, what happens if you kill all the jedi masters, but you turn at least 3/4 good by the rebuilt enclave? | 
03-22-2007, 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Ergophobia Some events can only happen when your character has reached a certain point along the alignment scale... I believe Visas Marr won't show up until you've reached 25% in either Dark or Light.
Also, if you're not about 75% Light/Dark you cannot gain a prestige class. The tomb on Korriban is another issue, you might even need Mastery to gain access. | In my experience Visas Marr sneaks on the Ebon Hawk the moment I land on any planet after I leave Telos.
It might be possible that it will be 25% Dark or Light, but never checked that, I am quite dedicated to either side when I wish so might be possible.
I also think that the 75% for prestige class might be true, but I was 100% Light at lvl 12 and was not able to get prestige class yet.
Could be level restriction...
It could be a constant coinsidance but I always seem to get them at lvl 15 no matter my allignment... 
Anyone has this problem aswell?
The tomb of korriban I was about 90% dark and I came out 100% dark... 
Or 70-75% light and almost neutral... 
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03-22-2007, 01:52 AM
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| | | You can only get a prestige class at 15. No matter how strongly aligned you are.
(I always forget to talk to Kreia at 15 and end up taking it at 16) | 
03-22-2007, 04:19 AM
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| | You can finish the game at neutral after taking all the bonuses from light/dark side. I finished as a neutral Guardian/Sith Lord on one occasion. I also went into the caves as light sided. 
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