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08-05-2002, 01:01 PM
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| | | You are what you eat @Thantor offered a long post from an article he'd written about nutrition over in my thread canvassing each of our personal eating habits. I considered it very interesting and articulate, but not quite on target for such a light-hearted thread; so I'm moving it over here, for comment, discussion, argument, etc. The increasing interconnection between the physical, nutritional, and informational is becoming progressively more critical within the field of medicine. The old adage "You are what you eat" is finding validation within the high tech world of genetic research… with unintended consequences. The completion of the Human Genome Project, the sequencing of the approximately 30,000 genes that make up the complete set of human DNA (or genome), has led to increased attention in a relatively new area of research -- the field of genomics. Unlike genetics, which is primarily concerned with the individual gene, genomics is the study of the dynamics of a genome as a whole. In one sense, it is the practical application of what we have learned about genes and how they interact with each other as well as their environment. What is now being appreciated is that genes do not function in isolation and that the environment that genes exist within have a significant effect on how and what they express. Of course, the biological environment that bath our genes is heavily influenced by what we eat. According to Dr. Jeffrey Bland, director for the Institute of Functional Medicine, the Standard American Diet (SAD) -- typically heavy in fast foods and simple sugars -- sends a rapid infusion of glucose and other substances into the system. This results in a type of "alarm response" in the body, which can contribute to an underlying sense of stress. This example demonstrates a concept that has long been held in naturopathic medicine: that food can be considered to be a type of information -- information that influences both our development and our daily functioning. The appreciation of food as information has contributed to a convergence of genomics, nutrition, and medicine that is now being referred to as "nutrigenomics". Nutrigenomics could basically be defined as the science of using an individual's genetic information to assist in making nutritional and dietary choices.
At first glance, this would seem like a wonderful collaboration. In fact, it sounds very similar to a naturopathic principle, that of respecting the ecological individuality of each unique person. A closer look, however, raises some disturbing questions. In April 2002, the first international nutrigenomics conference took place in the Netherlands in cooperation with companies like DuPont, Nestle and Unilever. One wonders about how such corporations plan to utilize the sensitive data concerning the human genome, given their obvious concern for profit and financial expansion. Certainly a case could be made that issues which are currently unpopular to the average consumer, such as the destructive impact of globalization on traditional food cultures and the unknown effects of genetically engineered food, could be made more attractive utilizing nutrigenomics. A marketing campaign touting food that was "enhanced" to meet the specific genetic needs of whole populations would be appealing to many. Putting that aside for a moment, an even larger issue looms. Granting for the sake of argument that such "enhanced" foods were superior, who would have access to them? Nutrigenomic techniques are very expensive and foods resulting from these technique would be similarly expensive. Could this contribute to the beginning of a nutritional hierarchy that could, in turn, mirror a genomic hierarchy based on class and money?
As with many medical interventions that offer to "improve" on what nature provides, there are complexities and unforeseen side effects that need to be assessed. Our need to shift through relevant information in order to make intelligent, informed choices leads to another interesting consideration. If food can be considered to be information, can information be considered to be food? Certainly this the view held in Chinese and Tibetan medicine. In Chinese medicine, the element of Earth relates both to the digestive system and to mental activity. Imbalances in the Earth element can be due to gastrointestinal problems but can also be due to psychoemotional issues, such as excessive worrying and the lack of self-nurturance. Therefore, an intimacy with the capacity of one's mind to understand, sort, and assimilate information is just as critical as attention to one's diet. While there is currently no "psychogenomics", there is a long tradition advocating the importance of "knowing oneself", as well as thoughtfulness to the influences that a person surrounds themselves with. In the pursuit of health, both for ourselves and for the planet, the proper balance of quality food and wholesome information needs to be considered. Perhaps then, it will be clear that we are much more than what we eat.
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08-05-2002, 11:31 PM
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Anyways, I totaly believe this. The food you eat when you eat it and how has a huge effect on a person.
If you guys don't know, I spent the last school semesters outdoors in a special outdoor program. The food we ate was all prepared by us and bought by us. An interesting experience for a group of 17 yr olds. Your mood for the whole day would be based on what you ate. Healthy, natural foods were always superior in how you felt afterwards. For instance, an apple is better for you then a power bar or energy drink. I can't explain what I mean quite, but organic foods feel better then manufactured foods. The fewer the chemicals the better. The groups that focused on pre made and packaged ready to make meals were generally more stressed and succombed to fatigue more than those who ate fresh and dried meat, vegetables and fruit.
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08-05-2002, 11:42 PM
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| | Personally, I would be very much interested in this... ...most especially since my son has the G6PD-syndrome. 
Although my son is very much healthy, there are certain types of food (like legumes and other high-nitrate(?) types) that he can only eat at a very minimum since he does not have the proper enzymes to digest it.
Eating an "alarming" number of these types can cause harmful (even fatal) effects on my boy.
EDIT- @fable: I assume that this is a serious thread. Quite surprised you didn't write a NO SPAM with the title as you would often do. 
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08-06-2002, 12:32 AM
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| | | @Mahar: I'm sorry to hear about your son, that of course requires some caution. It is good that efficient treatment is available for the complications it can lead to!
Personally, I am not at all well read into the subject of nutrition. Obviously it matters what you eat, but eating pattern is only part of one's general life style.
When I first came to the US, I was surprised and totally confused by the enormous amount of articfical additives that is in all food. If I lived there, I should most likely be much more careful about what I ate. Here, I don't need to care a lot, I just eat what I like as long as I stay healthy.
Nutriogenomics as Thantor mentions, has already become highly popularized. I've heard there are a lot of crap books around that sell on fooling people to eat according to their genetic types, etc.
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08-06-2002, 08:51 AM
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| | Weell Id agree with you on this because, my diet compared to many of my friends is usually better with so many more natural and steamed foods rather than fried and whatnot. Anyway I cam here to say this.
My friend once said that if we are what we eat, then she is fast, easy, and availible all the time... 
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08-06-2002, 08:54 AM
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| | | Re: Personally, I would be very much interested in this... Quote: Originally posted by Maharlika EDIT- @fable: I assume that this is a serious thread. Quite surprised you didn't write a NO SPAM with the title as you would often do.  | Rectified. 
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